posted Fri, 09/22/2017 - 09:33
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Sorry if I don't speak English well. I closed a cycle of Test Propionate on 8 July, (last injection), 12 weeks.
I started PCT and closed on 14 August.
Two days ago I did the blood test, (After one month) and today I took the results. (link)
Free testosterone, nitrogen and creatine is too high, I do not understand.
my PCT was Tamoxifene Orion Pharma Grade 40-40-20-20 and D-Aspartic Acid.
total testosterone is ok, not the free. These values are normal?
I want to start a new cycle on 1 October. Recommendations?
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Damn,........... a proper topic, with helpful advice and information.
+2 for everyone.
ETA: can you tell I'm getting sick of the shit show we've had of late.
Red.1979Thanks friend
And an OP who genuinely seems like he cares, is mature and wants real advice. Even with a language barrier. Novel concept.
Red.1979This site I liked it right away. Products are original but you can learn a lot from people like you. I have little time to devote to the site but often I like to read and ask for advice, especially when talking about his own life. Do not mess around. Thanks guys
I've been enjoying watching you storm in and start flipping tables though!
Sigh,........... hopefully it just me and the fact I'm getting a little older.
So a 12 week test prop cycle with a 4 week pct makes 16 weeks "on" you should wait that long before jumping back on cycle again. Oct 1st would be too soon brother. Maybe mid December? That would line up timewise from when you ended your pct.
Dont forget time for pct drugs to clear and for the body to find natural homeostasis
Question, so when he says a 4 week pct, then what week would you GENERALLY consider him "off" or able to start counting weeks before he can get back on? Or is that only established by bloodwork and so variable that you can't really give a solid answer? I always thought you'd start counting from the end of pct but you raise a good point about finding natural homeostasis... it doesn't happen overnight.
Red.1979I waited 4 weeks but it was not enough. In the next cycle I'll wait 8 weeks later I'll do the blood test.
Red.1979Maybe it's better to start directly in January. Thanks brother
Wait another 6 weeks and pull bloods again. And this time include LH, FSH, SHBG and Estradiol. If you've just finished PCt your numbers going to be all over the place.
Red.1979I thought that in a month the blood came back clean. I'm still waiting 6 weeks and do another blood test. I will include the new values. Thank you
No. Just after PCT the PCT meds are still having an affect. Typically it is best to wait 6 weeks after the end of your PCT before pulling bloods and the rest must include Total Test, Estrodial, LH and FSH. Given yohbhave high Free Test it would be a good idea to include SHBG. You may want to include a Full Blood Count and Full Lipid profile. And as Bearded says about you should be taking a break equal to the length of your cycle plus your PCT before jumping back on again so 1 October is way too soon.
Edit you got lucky this time with the PCT but next time run a proper PCT including Clomid 100/100/50/50.
Red.1979For the next cycle I also bought Clomid. We update in January. Thanks again
Yup. Wait 6 weeks as Dacky says. After your bloods are pulled and come back normal you can then think about another cycle. Not before that point.
Red.1979Thanks for the advice