+ 1 Trenbolone (not so common sides?)
This topic is more to do with a particular side from tren which isnt necessarily discussed commonly. We all know the insomnia, mood swings, night sweats, poor cardiac performance etc. We all know that tren is the "king" so to speak and being the king it has to be respected.
A side effect I have noticed several times is what seems to be hypoglycemia. I've read many times that trenbolone has an excellent nutrient partioning ability and strongly believe that due to this certain pathways are changed when using this compound. For instance, currently I'm on test and tren. Dosing has not resolved the issue for me as I've tried every combination imaginable to negate this hypo like feeling i get. It probably happens 1-3 times a week and it's always at night time approximately 2 hours post workout. First I get a cold sweat, then comes my hands being a bit shakier than normal, then my body is screaming for carbs. In fact I sometimes get light headed and need to sit for a few minutes. It's such a strange feeling and I've not experienced it with any other compound except GH. My usual remedy is to grab some simple carbs and apple juice and pound it until I "stabilize". I usually eat a protein rich meal pretty quickly after my initial carb intake. It baffles me as to what about the compound is actually causing such an issue. I've never spoken up about it because it doesn't seem to be that common. I'm sure tren has an impact on insulin sensitivity, but to the extent I had it from GH? It doesn't seem right. My bloods have always come back in normal ranges for blood glucose and those tests. In fact I maybe able to pull up bloods from December if anyone so wishes to look at them. I eat approximately 350 grams of carbs per day and my meal schedule is pretty normal actually. Normal applying to normal folk. I do not eat 6-8 meals a day and instead I eat around 1500 to 2000 calories per meal with mass gainer shakes making up a small percentage. I feel the mass gainer would fill the gaps so to speak as I work outside almost all day everyday and have to intake a lot of water to stay hydrated in the southern region.
Also when I am on tren I wake up almost nightly starving even if I had a very dense meal am hour before bed. Idk my body jist starves for carbs at certain points of the day.
Hopefully I'm no the only individual with this type of issue. I apologize if I do not reply tonight as I get up early. Thank you all and hopefully I posted this in the correct section.
Btw dosing is 500 test/300-400 tren e.
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I've checked my blood sugar during the crash feeling, and it's always came back normal. The symptoms are real though. The shakes and jittery feeling with the anxiety ridden hunger. Peanut butter followed by something of substance is the fastest cure for me.
Just one of a list of reasons I think I'm done with tren. The heartburn that sometimes happens is crippling, life is too random at this point, I don't need to be a sleep deprived psycho that wants to tap everything with legs, and the more I've read about the potential nervous system damage, the less I trust it.
Oh, I meant to ad that all anabolics seem to lower my blood sugar. I'm diabetic and only on pills, I don't take insulin. I have to monitor and reduce or stop my metformin sometimes. I used to take glipizide but that lowers blood sugar way too much all the time in my opinion.
The only way to say for sure that it's a hypoglycemic reaction is to get a blood meter, as mentioned by some below. You can get cheap ones. Actually, I've gotten a few free ones before. Pharmacies in grocery stores or Walgreens might have them. Companies give them to give out because then you have to buy their test strips when you run out. Just like printer companies give free printers so you are stuck buying their ink. If you don't need to test regularly the strips that come with it will last a long time. Just tell the pharmacist you think you're having blood sugar issues and need a tester. Probably leave out the part about tren causing it. Good luck.
Sort of off topic a bit but related- tren stuffs around with pain killers.
Codeine
Tramadol
Oxy
Diazapan.
I have no clue why yet coz i havent started researching properly but tren blocks the majority of their actions
In guessing cns interaction but it makes each of those i listed above basically not work.
Its not just me but 4 other guys have had same dramas over last couple years.
Research to come.
Just a thought.... estrogen does have an effect on pain by binding to certain receptors.... could it be elevated estrogen levels that are dominantly binding to those receptors instead of the pain meds??
Good thinking mate, maybe you could have a look and research on net over next coming days and we both post up what we find.
Cheers mate!
Same thing happens to me, my body craves quick digesting carbs when on bulk. I never thought it was the tren but then again I hardly cycle w out it. Bulk or cut.
Im especially on alrert when working out and while at work. It's always a fear of going hypo. Working out i add 75g dextrose to my intra fluids. And while working i always keep glucose tabs in my lunch box.
I've had bloods done and everything always comes back fine no signs of diabetes or anything.
Anabolics are always going to increase your metabolism to a degree and I'd put my money on tren doing this to a greater degree than any other. Then look at the growth we see from tren outside of just the androgen receptor, (igf increase and sensitivity) I can see someone going hypo if carbs aren't high enough to compensate. Just watched an interview with Dorian Yates where he talked about consuming 2000 grams of carbs a day in the offseason, highlighting how different we all are with our nutritional needs. Keep snacks handy, that low blood sugar is a terrible feeling.
Hmmm interesting, I don't get that at all.
Currently running
Test 300mg
Tren 525mg
4iu hgh
Carbs are at 70-80 a day total!
Wow that is absolutely insane. Not dosing, but that how different our bodies are. Enjoy that's about my favorite combo.
Also running 525mg of masteron as well.
The first time I ever used tren I did Tren E at 400mg and the sides were horrible! Then I tried Tren ace 100mg eod and it was much better. Then did 50mg ed and zero sides, same at 75mg ed. I can't show any science behind my theory. But I feel like the more often I inject/the more stable my blood levels are, the less side effects I have.
Youre not alone i had this side effect, shaking, cold numbness and a feeling to eat something quick, always happened when going to bed.
RustyhookerTren is a carb whore. Carb control can help a ton for night sweats with stopping carbs a good 4 hours before bed as you know.
But for your safety, if you're burning thru carbs that fast you might look at the balance of your longer chain carbs for blood stability and get a glucose meter so you can prove that carbs are the culprit. There's deals online often for free meters or hit the local walgreens.
There's other health disorders that can cause those symptoms but i think you're on the right path of questions. Use science to keep you safe.
Thank you for the insight. I always wait for your responses as you seem to be right on the money usually. It's such a weird thing. I am thinking a much more complex carb complex is needed. I'm going to log when it happens and hopefully be able to give a breakdown of what my caloric intake consisted of for the day.
I'd like to try oNE of those meters just to understand the glucose better
RustyhookerFor both replys above and below
When the tren starts kicking in i start to feel the faster recovery between sets...yada yada....then during the day when eating carbs i notice i sweat more during a high carb meal. Imo... that thermogenic effect is going to burn more calories. Thinking about the old eca stack as thermo reference. So if the body likes burning cheap fuels first, it would seem plausible that tge cheap carbs ate gone in a flash.
As far as the question on how common it is.... it would be determined by your natural metabolism. Some folks eat everything and still stay cut. Tren to me is a turbo charger and can push you quickly in any direction if your diet isnt on point.
My first tren run i cycled carbs. I was in the cutter ebc. I was up at 195 with full feeling pumps. I decided to go keto given the carb whore tren shoukd strip fat even faster. For me it flattened me out and by second week i was at 185 looked like crap! Cycle ended and i carb loaded, muscled filled and it made me rething my approach to keeping it simple.
Others on here have tons more tren experience, so i look forward to seeing many answers. Differing views.
Wish i knew this before i used tren a while back, during my research i only came across the usual sides. Do you know if glucose issues are common with tren or just for the unlucky few?
RustyhookerPosted above. I'd say not common but individual results and food control.