+ 3 Am i injecting wrong?
hey all,
i have a concern and i hope most of you don't laugh at it because it's pretty god damn off. so i've been on a tren test and mast cycle the past 4 weeks. i'm nearing week 5 after this and i have a really weird predicament going on.
so for this cycle since it's my first time taking tren and i got terrified about hearing of tren cough i decided to pin my ass (first time pinning my ass and i think i'm doing it right indid a lot of research to find that right spot). in hopes of not hitting any nerves or veins since i usually pin my quad and i can feel my leg twitch because god knows how lany things i'm hitting. so at first i thought i wasn't pinning wrong since it was week two and i was getting ZERO, and i mean zero tren effects i thought i was pinning totally wrong. went to get bloods which i posted and test levels checked out and so did libido and hardening from mast. i feel like a rock. so my question is, what is the damn deal with this tren? i've heard there's an elite 1% that don't respond to tren at all and i'm praying ik not one of those guys. my strength is minimal and i'll attribute that to test. i know the tren is somewhat in here because i took a wrong e2 test and it came out sky high. no aggression, no sweats, no strength, my cardio is more than fine i do 30 min steady state every night. and i'm almost 100% sure the tren is real because the source on here has zero, and legit mean zero bad reviews and he is domestic to us here in the USA.
Tren e. the ester should be somewhat almost close to unleashing itself but i'm not feeling anything. does anyone have any clue as to what's going on? my BP IS a little high and so is my heart rate but i have n2guard to protect it. my piss is fine, light yellow as always. isn't this just weird??? should i just stop taking it and give up on tren all together because i'm not going to keep injecting this dangerous hormone if all it's doing is fucjing with my internals and giving me shit in return. what do you guys thinks?
as always all replies are appreciated. and yes i'm using caber ai and all that if you'd like to check the whole cycle it's incly profile in another forum i posted.
thanks for reading guys!
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rayfetaa.
I don't care where you go in life, real or virtual you will always face a bit of hazing when you are new. Laugh it off, learn and join in the fun. It is all only words on a screen.
RustyhookerNice to see ya bite the hand that fed you.
So you finally posted a picture that will earn you an easy 50 karma points. You're welcome!!
Is tren working? Judging by your attitude, no doubt. Just wait til you get to week 8 and beyond. Everyone will be horrible persons towards you. Tren is great at altering thoughts
People really have to learn to take yes for an answer.If on can check his ego one can learn an awful lot from you.
RustyhookerFrom a lot of old timers. Learn the easier routes.
Yes sir!I certainly wish I had studied more and listened better.
RustyhookerWhen i started there wasnt an internet. We had to read. Good ol dan duchaine. Lol! His advanced doses and cycles were smaller than these guys starting cycles. And that era produced guys like dorian yates.
backonroidsIs it fair to say after all I've read that back in the days the drugs where fire , better dosed and mostly pharma grade products? I know some old school guys who's first cycle was like 1ml test a week and others who had like 15mg of dbol and blew up
RustyhookerMy first run was simple 300mg pharma. Loved it! Theres awesome ugl as well. Back then pharma was everywhere, easy to find and fairly grey market. Only the dudes that fullly plateaued used em. The mass monsters kept us newbs in line around that idea. It truely was a brotherhood.
Im seeing really good ugl orals but it was certainly nice to get pharma easily. 15 mg dbol split 5mg every 4 hours with protein rich meal and carbs was excellent. On ugl i see folks boast 100mg var....bullcrap. 50mg split and im using every trick to avoid cramps. Tbol recently i literally had to split by the hour 10mg because it was that damn strong.
My opinion is everyone should get the top brand or human grade, run bloods and take notes. Then you can really see when you have really underdosed gear.
But back to the first point of my first 300mg cycle. 300mg should have your bloods over 2000 or not much under 2000. Normal levels is 300-1100. So even with 2000 on bloods, you're anabolic enough to gain. Good foods and kill it at the gym means everything. Gear only boosts repairs. But what is thete to repair if you dont break it down in the gym? No lactic acid to burn away the old so new muscle repairs occur. Or if your foods cant allow that repair? Best gear...best routine...cant heal just because you shorted nutrition. Thats the waste.
Anyways, ive rambled on. Winny pharma...30mg split was a lot. 15mg dbol did fine. Check dan duchaines old posted cycles. The difference will be amazing. To see a posted heavy cycle that totals under 750 a week on a massive person. That hidden key is simply food and drive.
backonroidsThanks for the info rusty , it's funny now your the mass monster keeping us newbs in line.
RustyhookerNaaa. I look like a midget nacho libre.
backonroidsHaha fuck , neatly spat my coffee out
RustyhookerTrue story. Lol
Dan was great !When I was about twenty he wrote for Bill Phillips rag and it was great.I got to meet him once and I was like a kid in a candy store,He was not so impressed with me but still very nice.He introduced me to Mooney's rag Medabolics and I never looked back.I never liked ultimate orange but loved designer protein.Of course it was the first that actually tasted ok.Before that most sucked.
RustyhookerSnaps! You went there! The orange was friggin insanity in a cup. Due to settling, you might hit a dose and feel nothing. Next scoop, you felt like you were gonna die. Heart rate screaming. It was freaky. Not in a good way freaky. Lol!
But his cycles were so simple. Light but comprehensive. It how i changed winny from from end kicker to 10-14 tail end by forcing research on sex binding hormone. Parillo and poloquin boosted me up 20 pounds without gear. Just foods and how i hit the gym. Awesome memories
Funny I had a freind show me this Athalean vids from Jeff Cavalier , and after watching I told my freind" he is just re-teaching Parillo techniques".My freeing said...who?lol
RustyhookerHaha!!! Just reinvent the wheel.
I see a lot of guys that getting screwy on tren. I ran 8 weeks with ace back in the day. Night sweats so bad I about ruined my Matress had to put a plastic cover under the Matress. Woke up every hour soaked. Was worried about getting shit attitude. Almost didn't run it because of that. But at the time I didn't give a shit. Turned out I'm one of the few that just gets super cuddle bug. Never had any anger issues.
RustyhookerI turn into a sauna! Cut carbs before 6pm if ya sleep at 11pm. Cuts the sweating by a ton.
Tren pushes me introverted. Instead of being social and hanging out, I'd rather just be alone in my head. I dont like that part at all. Seems by week 8 at most its time to bail. Tren a at 6 is already starting it up.
Thanks for the tip on the carbs if I ever decide to run it again I'll try that.
Only sides I get from tren is an insane libido and sweat like crazy. I believe the key with tren is to keep estrogen and prolactin under control.
srt8calii took someone advice and my estro has been down toc33 the past week so i'm feeling dry and good. i have been using caber and ai since day one and i got the wrong estro test since tren throws it off but i agree with you from
the research i've done. either the caber and AI are doing too well of a job, my tren is bunk (still having a hard time doubting based on the source), or i just don't respond to it. which i've seen a few people claim.
rayfetaa.
Just stop the tren man.You are really too small to be using it anyway.There are much better compounds for a guy trying to add size .Think about it you wont have to use caber either,perfect,more money for the compounds that actually work.I looked at your bloods and you need to get that estrodiol in check.That being said I've used very good tren e and have never had tren cough.I have gone slap,hiding in the bushes crazy,but no cough.
srt8calithank you for your input bro. i appreciate it a lot!
rayfetaa.
You must be one of the elite 1%. Time to move on from tren.
Ha! +1
Bro, I know that you are claiming this to be your fourth cycle, but I'm not buying it, and I don't think that anyone who has ever ran a few cycles is buying it either. That being said, you really should have done a little more homework before jumping on the tren train. You have no idea how it acts and how it's going to treat you. This is why one should always start with ace. Not E. because when the tren train hits, it hits hard. Ace you can walk away and it goes away after a couple of days. E...when it hits, that bitch will be with you. Long time, so buckle in. As for the "elite 1%". Lol, don't count on it.
Now back to the experience. Seriously bro. If this was your fourth cycle you should have shit like a pinning routine figured out.
The entire post screams noob or at the very least a mentally handicapped guy on a second cycle.
Now for the advice. Drop the tren E. Your boy probably sold you deca or some other compound. Get your blood tested again and try to get the estrogen reigned in. Clean up your diet, and then eat like a bear. Start over here at eroids and shoot people straight so that you can get helpful advice. Here is my advice for the face bloat. Cut your salt intake down. I'd be willing to bet that it's high and one of the the reason that you have facial bloating.
Hope that helps.
All my love, no homo
Ed
srt8calithanks Ed,
i appreciate your advice. i understand why the post came off noobish and i see i rephrased it wrong and everyone is focusing on the "this kid doesn't even know how to inject
or how it works" aspect instead of trying to focus on the question i was confused about because i find it bizzare.
thanks for being honest with me though and thanks for mot being a jerk i appreciate you bro
rayfetaa.
Bro your trens bunk probably, throw it away and do proper research into the source and lab youre buying from next time.
TrenEisWeeaakk
You really do need 3cc, I hear
I wouldn't recommend tren to anyone unless they get paid for the way they look or steps on stage i don't believe the average guy like me or you should be running tren. Of course your body your choice i just wanted to put that out there.
I can tell you I ordered from a src domestic with very little bad reviews and the gear i received was subpar this might be the case .
The inj situation I don't understand why you changed the way your comfortable with pinning. If its not a blend then you should have around 8 spots you pin for a good rotation.
I can't give you any solid advice until you post
Goals
Priors
And complete stats
We're working on getting back to the right direction. You have been around for 2yrs so you know about this protocol when asking questions.
Help us help you
All of your questions are newbie questions... all of them.
first time on tren, first time pinning your ass (stop talking about your fkn ass or use a code word or something will you), first time dealiing with facebloat, first time hearing of tren throwing off a bloods reading, first time understanding water consumption, first time using hcg, first time figuring out a test tren cut and so on
Something is up with you
I dont believe you are as old as you say. You absolutely definitely are a newbie with almost everything on this cycle and you need people here to do the work for you
Tell us your real age
Tell us you real goals
Tell us your diet
Inj frequency
Doses durations and ALL compounds being used on cycle
time to tell the truth as something is up with you
srt8calii'm ina newbie and you're such a god at pointing out lies we can bot upload a picture with our eroids tag on it and see who the newbie is. you got me offended for absolutely no reason at all. don't make false accusations especially when you didn't even care to read any of my posts. you're rediculous man. i have never been rude to a fellow eroids memeber because i appreciate everyone on this board but your comment is utterly pathetic.
rayfetaa.
Bro...I am a newb to aas and I read through your previous posts and that is all stuff I figured out by doing a bit of research and running basic cycles. I'm one of the nicest guys you will meet and Im not trying to be a dick.but if your not new to this you're very lazy and are not doing any research on you're own.
backonroidsTrue mate ,especially with the energy wasted on this post he could have used the time a lot smarter
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you say you're not sa newbie, yet every question you ask is a newbie question
AT A MINIMUM, you are lying to yourself
srt8calipost a pic of yourself mr vet. actually all
you are is a fucking troll
Have you posted one of yourself yet? And we can tell the difference between real hair and magic marker broseph.
Ah come on will ya, no need to insult me
Just because I dont believe you are really the age you say you are?!
Your tren is working man
srt8calilet me start off by quoting my origional post in this thread which was if you guys want to see my full cycle just take three seconds to click on my profile and see the cycle
i'm on. you like to start drama for no reason and i've seen you do it on other posts. greg and a few vets just clashed over this exact reason a few days ago and it relates to people like you spitting shit out of your ass because you purposely are trying to catch someone in their "bs". i really don't get you at all. sometimes you help with my answers and the next you go ballistic and make all these false accusations. if you read any of my posts properly, which evident by your reply you haven't. i stated i've always had face bloat in every cycle i've ran. it's very commmon and i haven't seem to find a remedy for it except for the cardio i've been incorporating the past few days has drastically helped. first time understanding water consumption? LOL i asked how you guys drink a gallon a day to try and see if my method would work. holy fuck man i get you try and help but you're literally talking out of your ass and you've read my posts with zero attention. first time using hcg? actually no i needed help reconstituting my HCG because it came in a different IU than i normally get it from. i've never asked for anyone to consign. i've laid out all mymcucles, ones that have been even commented on mods and other vets yet you're the only one who thinks everything is a lie? this is the most redic answer
i've probably ever seen on a post. quit trying to get thumbs up for some karma and just spitting lies because if you were a betting man you would have just lost everything given the fact that you cleaelycjusy read title ofmmy
posts and gave zero bangs to actually read any of my posts. i hate to be a dick here and i'm always respectful of everyone and their opinions but keep your bs accusations to yourself
rayfetaa.
Thanks for this post, you just validated what I said!
srt8calii actually devalidated eberything you said. asking people how they drink their water is a noobie question? keep negging me, clearly can't admit your faults. fucking loser, don't comment on my posts again
I will only neg silly posts or posts where you insult me, or others, I promise.
Well no, I think when you come off the tren if you were to re-read all of this, you might see that you in fact validated everything I said! You are in a public forum fella, comment is everywhere! It's all around you! Trippy eh?!
Yep lots of agression and paranoia, the Tren is Fiyahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh