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I'm 51 and ordering my first ever test cycle. I'm going for 10 weeks at 250 mg twice a week. Should I run hcg with it? I have nolva and clomid on hand for pct. My overall health is great. Benching 325 naturally. My afternoon test level is 541 which I understand is great for my age. Any and all help would be appreciated.

Tojasco's picture

I'll send numbers from screening next week. Thanks for all of your inputs guys I really do appreciate it.

Tojasco's picture

I'm a little more than half way through cycle and have gained approximately 12 lbs. Experienced some shrinkage so started hcg @ 500iu's on week 5. Have since went up to 1000. The boys are good. Sex drive is good. As soon as I started cycle I was transferred to another region with my job. Was living out of a hotel for 6 weeks. Diet went south. Tried my best but with no kitchen it sucks. Overall I am satisfied. I feel tighter. Still cut pretty nicely. Mood is good. Wife loves it all. Started with about 22% bf. not sure where I am now but considerably less.
BP did go up. Was 125/70 now about 150/90. I'm sure it will settle back down after cycle is over. Might try another visit to doc for test levels soon. I'll keep y'all updated.

Tojasco's picture

Rh, results are in. I'm not sure what to look for other than test an LH. Test is >1500 and LH is a .2 extremely low. What next?

Tojasco's picture

Rh, results are in. I'm not sure what to look for other than test an LH. Test is >1500 and LH is a .2 extremely low. What next?

Tojasco's picture

Just registered, testing Monday. Thanks for the info.
No signs of estro so no ai taken. I guess Monday will tell the tale.
Diet was crap as stated above. Back home so things will get better.

zeusmarada's picture

One strategy to help lower BP is to donate a unit of blood. BE CAREFUL with bp. Our hearts are nothing to fuck with!

Not chewing you out. Just walking with you during this adventure, and certainly rooting for you.

Listen to your body. (I know this is obvious, but still, I feel I gotta say it for other young men reading this thread.) Your body will let you know when something is wrong. If you have any chest pains, or shortness of breath, don't just "power through it." Back off, breathe, pop an aspirin, rest, take a break from pinning!

But it also sounds like you're in a positive mental place currently, so keep that mojo going. Ride it through to the end of this cycle and keep lifting hard after you've stopped with the pinning this go around. Crush it, brother.

zeusmarada's picture

GREAT nugget. +1 This pertains to us fools who drink too much coffee on a daily basis, too. Stay hydrated is solid, simple, and sound advice!

Tojasco's picture

Love my coffee but hydration has been good.

Tojasco's picture

Gear arrived. 1st pin today. Is there a way to post pics in comments?

giardap's picture

You can post pics in the pics section and check out the forum; test forum syntax in the forums list for linking to pics
Did you opt for HCG in the end?

Tojasco's picture

I have hcg in case of shrinkage. We'll see how it goes.

giardap's picture

Spot on, best of luck with it

randys52's picture

Did my first cycle at 61......was wonderful. Sounds like you did your homework. Keep us posted.

zeusmarada's picture

Keep us posted on your experiences, please!

Tojasco's picture

Still waiting on delivery. But i will!

zeusmarada's picture

Any news to report? Rooting for you, brother.

Tojasco's picture

I'm a little more than half way through cycle and have gained approximately 12 lbs. Experienced some shrinkage so started hcg @ 500iu's on week 5. Have since went up to 1000. The boys are good. Sex drive is good. As soon as I started cycle I was transferred to another region with my job. Was living out of a hotel for 6 weeks. Diet went south. Tried my best but with no kitchen it sucks. Overall I am satisfied. I feel tighter. Still cut pretty nicely. Mood is good. Wife loves it all. Started with about 22% bf. not sure where I am now but considerably less.
BP did go up. Was 125/70 now about 150/90. I'm sure it will settle back down after cycle is over. Might try another visit to doc for test levels soon. I'll keep y'all updated.

olemoxk's picture

Def do hcg! in my experience it helped my pct so much even when i added tren compared to my test e cycle without hcg.

Greg's picture

First, I hate you and your 541 natural test levels...

Stick with just the test and nothing else.
Exogenous test will shut your natural production down.
A 250 mg dose is a TRT dose and will put you right back in the high normal range.

I'd take 250mg twice a week for ten weeks.

Tojasco's picture

Haha, thanks for being honest. No hcg then?
I've read a lot of mixed reviews. Looking for some experience.

giardap's picture

I am a HCG advocate and use it on every cycle
There are many reasons to add it to your cycle, chief of which is its keeping the old diesel engines warm, which makes for a speedier overall recovery, which is not to be sneezed at, but certainly not essential

Also, there is nothing worse than lying on your back, getting head from a sexy lady and your shrunken balls shoot right up inside your stomach. That feeling is horrific!

Greg's picture

I'm not sold on the need for HCG. And am a staunch believer that you should only run one compound during your first cycle.

You've got the baseline bloods, after starting the cycle draw bloods in 6 weeks to see what your new levels are.

Makwa's picture

Adding HCG in for a first cycle can make estro management a real bitch. Which is something you definitely don't want with a first cycle. It is hard enough figuring out your AI on just test alone.

zeusmarada's picture

+1 for both of you lads. I hope other men read your suggestions and take your words to heart.

Tojasco's picture

Ok. Thanks again buddy.

Caeser's picture

Just use the spyglass up top... search "First Cycle"... research & you'll get all the answers you're looking for. There is plenty of info related to this topic on this site...