Maybe this explains my pain.
Although I have a different batch # (006), that I'm currently running at 3ml a week. I can't walk or sit for days afterwards, depending where I inject (glutes/quads). I have a lump the size of a baseball.
You should ask for the complete report - raw data (GC/MS or HPLC)
Also it would help to send a "control sample" along with other samples.....this helps to test the accuracy of the lab doing the testing....not all testing methods are accurate when it comes to quantitative testing (mg/mL)
Did Morley Lab (university) do the testing or Life Science Lab ?
This report is very "vague" IMO..... (no description of sample, doesn't even mention method of testing for quantitative result)
Only £44.99 for quantitative testing of a substance?
Ya that's pretty damn cheap. Setup alone is extremely expensive usually 500-1000 bucks, prep work involved, so the cost of paying the scientist or lab tech, then factor in the cost of the depreciation of a very very expensive instrument.
It was life sciences laboratory that conducts the testing procedure, i would appreciate if you could make a list of questions that i can give to the laboratory which will hopefully shed some light on their testing procedures and how accurate their test results are, i have spoken to one of the lead scientists already and they claim they have been testing substances for over 22 years and they perform testing for the police force, crown prosecution service and criminal justice system, if you have any questions please forward them to me and i will pass them on to chemclarity and we will have some answers for everyone, thanks bro
I've communicated with ChemClarity before. It would be great if they are actually using an accredited lab....but this result assay seems "off" (i could always be wrong)
Another quick fix is to send in a "control sample" (compound pharmacy or PHARMA Testosterone) - something the mg/mL is already known
Ok i will pass on this info and see what they have to say, but surely they will just point out the fact that it is a different batch. And apparently they calibrate their machines once a week by testing a pharma grade compound x5 seperate times and each test result must be within 0.04 tolerance, and as for sending a control sample test i dont have any pharma grade at hand, the best i currently have available is balkan test-c amps
Chemclarity provide their own empty sample vial sent in a test pack with instructions and a return envelope, thats how they take each sample from the customer, they provide a little vial and syringe and you are supposed to draw 0.5ml into their sample container and return it in the envelope provided. And sorry they did actually say that they use a pure standard for comparison (my bad) anyway i will contact them today after work if i get some free time to see what they have to say, plus i will be asking for the raw data
I think sending in that Balken Test C ampule would be a good start to compare results....I've seen results like this (overdosed) from SteroidCheck. They could identify a substance but not accurately quantify (GC/MS).....they had a nice website. etc....but were not an accredited lab....I would like for ChemClarity to be a legit place to send samples.....but more samples need to be tested to compare IMO
These results are very questionable plus the assay doesn't use Life Science Info......SIMEC presents its info with its contact info and not AnabolicLab info
If that lab report is correct this is unacceptable! SP needs to step up their quality control. Gear this overdosed just screws up your cycle. Someone for 1st cycle assuming 500mg and taking this much more....not good nor needed. Now they assume they are taking 500mg but are actually closer to 800 and are taking an ai dose to combat 800mg. Next cycle when they are using properly dosed gear their ai dose will be to much and estro will crash and gains will suffer. If I was prepping and using gear this overdosed I would be pissed, this would screw everything up. I for one will not be buying any SP with quality control this poor.
Give them a call bro and see if they will take your sample? Are you in the states? What is your location? If you are overseas im not sure if they accept samples from overseas due to importation laws etc, but its worth contacting them directly to see if it can be done
damn dude. you know i used their test cyp and prop as a kicker awhile back and it was unusually strong i was doing 200 mg 2x a week of the cyp and 50mg prop eod as a kicker and i put on some fucking power and mass like i was using 2x that. my bp shot through the roof to it was probably 300 mg per ml and 150 to 200 per ml on prop. thanks for sharing brother +1
I see everyone saying how "overdosed" this is but i dont see where it was stated how much he was even using?it doesn't say he was using 250 milligrams a week it says he was testing "SP labs testosterone Enanthate 250". so my question is how much were you running weekly?
I havent used any yet, my aim was to get the lab results before i started using this brand, my brand of choice is of course balkan, but now i know the actual strength of this product i can use an accurate dose.
if you want me to be 100% honest I was quickly skimming through a few posts and when I saw your report looked too quickly and I saw the first word testosterone and I saw the number 391.07 and thought it said 3,910.7 as what a blood level result light look like. I thought this was your testosterone level blood report...smh...
I apologize for being an idiot LOL and would definitely say that that is much too high of a level and as everyone stated could very well be potentially harmful to any individual who is trying to accurately dose themselves
That doesn't matter.. You're missing the point it doesn't matter if he "thought" he was taking 100mg or 1,000 the fact is whatever he "thought" he was taking he wasn't... And we're not just talking 50mg we're talking about 150mg per ml over that's just down right unacceptable.
THIS IS WHY ITS IMPORTANT TO TAKE BLOODS DURING CYCLE.
Please see above....honest mistake in what i was reading. I 100% agree with you and everyone else....definitly a huge negative to see given such a respected lab
Ya but all the fanboys come out of the wood work and say looks spot on when bloods are in 6000 range on 500mg week when average should be 2300 to 3600 range its hard to truley be accurate with bloods unless u know wat your bloods run on 200mg watson a week or have some type of reference point to work from. Luckly being older and on trt i can use my rx dose to rule my finding if 10 people take same trt dose and test bloodwork not one number will be the same because we all uptake the hormone diffrently
Agreed, bloods or somebody's walking around with sore nips for awhile til they throw some letro at it... Then if no bloods they'll think they need more ai the next time they run "X" dose bc of this experience...
"Pharmacy grade" however severely overdosed. I'm sure my Watson cyp wouldn't test like that.
I understand some guys would love to see this being so overdosed. However the reality is its denturmental to the users who think they're only shooting 250 mg/ml
What happens to the guy running this at 1,000 mg?
1564 mg this guy would running unknowing. Ugh!! Then you add the fact of these crazy cycles kids are posting up....still shaking my head.
+1 for the testing, but that's pretty far out of spec. A traditional 500mg week cycle is actually an ~800mg/week cycle . I'd much rather see that a lot closer to the label specification
Maybe this explains my pain.
Although I have a different batch # (006), that I'm currently running at 3ml a week. I can't walk or sit for days afterwards, depending where I inject (glutes/quads). I have a lump the size of a baseball.
Guess I'm close to 1.1 grams.
You should ask for the complete report - raw data (GC/MS or HPLC)
Also it would help to send a "control sample" along with other samples.....this helps to test the accuracy of the lab doing the testing....not all testing methods are accurate when it comes to quantitative testing (mg/mL)
Did Morley Lab (university) do the testing or Life Science Lab ?
This report is very "vague" IMO..... (no description of sample, doesn't even mention method of testing for quantitative result)
Only £44.99 for quantitative testing of a substance?
++s for taking the time to send off a sample tho
Ya that's pretty damn cheap. Setup alone is extremely expensive usually 500-1000 bucks, prep work involved, so the cost of paying the scientist or lab tech, then factor in the cost of the depreciation of a very very expensive instrument.
what does the price have to do with the quality of the test hail?
I don't know of any accredited lab that charges only $50 usd to identify and quantify a substance......ANGUS charged $80 if I'm not mistaken :-/
It was life sciences laboratory that conducts the testing procedure, i would appreciate if you could make a list of questions that i can give to the laboratory which will hopefully shed some light on their testing procedures and how accurate their test results are, i have spoken to one of the lead scientists already and they claim they have been testing substances for over 22 years and they perform testing for the police force, crown prosecution service and criminal justice system, if you have any questions please forward them to me and i will pass them on to chemclarity and we will have some answers for everyone, thanks bro
I would bypass ChemClarity and contact Life Science Directly:
https://www.surescreen.com/life-sciences/
[email protected]
[email protected]
Present them with this Info : (raw data)
https://anaboliclab.com/wpdm-package/sp-laboratories-sp-enanthate-dosage...
I've communicated with ChemClarity before. It would be great if they are actually using an accredited lab....but this result assay seems "off" (i could always be wrong)
Another quick fix is to send in a "control sample" (compound pharmacy or PHARMA Testosterone) - something the mg/mL is already known
Use a 2mL unmarked glass sample Vial
Although i have to admit this result does seem way off for a lab such as SP, i mean its not like they are a new lab.
Ok i will pass on this info and see what they have to say, but surely they will just point out the fact that it is a different batch. And apparently they calibrate their machines once a week by testing a pharma grade compound x5 seperate times and each test result must be within 0.04 tolerance, and as for sending a control sample test i dont have any pharma grade at hand, the best i currently have available is balkan test-c amps
Normally a lab will use a "pure standard" (HPLC)
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/sial/t3006?lang=en®ion=US
Not a Pharma sample for comparison
It would be cool to see their results for the Balken Test C
Maybe send it in a testing Vial:
https://www.amazon.com/Glass-Vials-Dram-Pack-12/dp/B008IRT7SI
Instead of the marked ampule
Chemclarity provide their own empty sample vial sent in a test pack with instructions and a return envelope, thats how they take each sample from the customer, they provide a little vial and syringe and you are supposed to draw 0.5ml into their sample container and return it in the envelope provided. And sorry they did actually say that they use a pure standard for comparison (my bad) anyway i will contact them today after work if i get some free time to see what they have to say, plus i will be asking for the raw data
I think sending in that Balken Test C ampule would be a good start to compare results....I've seen results like this (overdosed) from SteroidCheck. They could identify a substance but not accurately quantify (GC/MS).....they had a nice website. etc....but were not an accredited lab....I would like for ChemClarity to be a legit place to send samples.....but more samples need to be tested to compare IMO
These results are very questionable plus the assay doesn't use Life Science Info......SIMEC presents its info with its contact info and not AnabolicLab info
i planned to send a sample of two products i want tested in two different unmarked vials
391 mg /ml u had to feel that pin a day after
If that lab report is correct this is unacceptable! SP needs to step up their quality control. Gear this overdosed just screws up your cycle. Someone for 1st cycle assuming 500mg and taking this much more....not good nor needed. Now they assume they are taking 500mg but are actually closer to 800 and are taking an ai dose to combat 800mg. Next cycle when they are using properly dosed gear their ai dose will be to much and estro will crash and gains will suffer. If I was prepping and using gear this overdosed I would be pissed, this would screw everything up. I for one will not be buying any SP with quality control this poor.
+2 for the labwork exposing this
also did you send this sample from the states?
From the UK bro
shit i wonder how hard it would be for me to send a sample to them...
Give them a call bro and see if they will take your sample? Are you in the states? What is your location? If you are overseas im not sure if they accept samples from overseas due to importation laws etc, but its worth contacting them directly to see if it can be done
im half tempted to try and order some of this even tho they're having issues lol
damn dude. you know i used their test cyp and prop as a kicker awhile back and it was unusually strong i was doing 200 mg 2x a week of the cyp and 50mg prop eod as a kicker and i put on some fucking power and mass like i was using 2x that. my bp shot through the roof to it was probably 300 mg per ml and 150 to 200 per ml on prop. thanks for sharing brother +1
NotNatural23Dam that is high. At anaboliclabs testing there Sp Test E 250 came back at 266.9 mgs . So that's some big differences between batches.
266 is ok but this here is too high. I wouldn't say that this is a 'good' result.
Holly shit I always have great results with this brand Hmmm
Titsonmyman69I see everyone saying how "overdosed" this is but i dont see where it was stated how much he was even using?it doesn't say he was using 250 milligrams a week it says he was testing "SP labs testosterone Enanthate 250". so my question is how much were you running weekly?
I havent used any yet, my aim was to get the lab results before i started using this brand, my brand of choice is of course balkan, but now i know the actual strength of this product i can use an accurate dose.
Titsonmyman69dude forget what I said I am an idiot LMFAO
if you want me to be 100% honest I was quickly skimming through a few posts and when I saw your report looked too quickly and I saw the first word testosterone and I saw the number 391.07 and thought it said 3,910.7 as what a blood level result light look like. I thought this was your testosterone level blood report...smh...
I apologize for being an idiot LOL and would definitely say that that is much too high of a level and as everyone stated could very well be potentially harmful to any individual who is trying to accurately dose themselves
That doesn't matter.. You're missing the point it doesn't matter if he "thought" he was taking 100mg or 1,000 the fact is whatever he "thought" he was taking he wasn't... And we're not just talking 50mg we're talking about 150mg per ml over that's just down right unacceptable.
THIS IS WHY ITS IMPORTANT TO TAKE BLOODS DURING CYCLE.
Titsonmyman69Please see above....honest mistake in what i was reading. I 100% agree with you and everyone else....definitly a huge negative to see given such a respected lab
Ya but all the fanboys come out of the wood work and say looks spot on when bloods are in 6000 range on 500mg week when average should be 2300 to 3600 range its hard to truley be accurate with bloods unless u know wat your bloods run on 200mg watson a week or have some type of reference point to work from. Luckly being older and on trt i can use my rx dose to rule my finding if 10 people take same trt dose and test bloodwork not one number will be the same because we all uptake the hormone diffrently
Agreed, bloods or somebody's walking around with sore nips for awhile til they throw some letro at it... Then if no bloods they'll think they need more ai the next time they run "X" dose bc of this experience...
backonroids+1 for sharing , wow that's very overdosed ! I know it should be celebrated , however when your doing a 500mg p/w cycle your doing it for a reason .
Garbage. If someone used this for TRT he'd unknowingly be running a cycle. This is unacceptable.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate this. Now I know to avoid this lab.
"Pharmacy grade" however severely overdosed. I'm sure my Watson cyp wouldn't test like that.
I understand some guys would love to see this being so overdosed. However the reality is its denturmental to the users who think they're only shooting 250 mg/ml
What happens to the guy running this at 1,000 mg?
1564 mg this guy would running unknowing. Ugh!! Then you add the fact of these crazy cycles kids are posting up....still shaking my head.
Yep. +/- 10% is acceptable. This is trash
Overdosed. No good
Yikes. That much OD shouldnt be looked at as a good thing.
hplc? +141mg...?
+1 thanks for testing bro appreciate it!
And I like to see em overdosed for sure but damn that much you better be on your A game with that AI lol
+1 for the testing, but that's pretty far out of spec. A traditional 500mg week cycle is actually an ~800mg/week cycle . I'd much rather see that a lot closer to the label specification
Beat me by 30 seconds lol yeah it's a bit much lol must've said fuck it with some extra Raws and dumped em on in the mix
Haha, I had to do a double take with the label. I thought it was test 400. That could be the difference in gyno or no gyno for someone.
Everything from Ashop is quality!
+1 bro