-1 Aas and mental disorders
Hi, I want to talk about a topic that isn't clear on the Internet and also some endocrinologist don't know anything about it.
You could write your experience with aas and mental disorders.
Aas and anti depression drugs or drugs to treat anxiety. Androgenic activities of aas are related to well being feelings but it could also increase some bad quality of our behavior. I'm taking dbol, proviron, an snri and another drug to treat anxiety. I have decreased the snri of a 50% gradually to avoid heavy shift of mood when I'll finish this light cycle. I've had some day (2-3) where my mood was very low, now I've upped dbol and proviron to 30 and 150 mg and I'm feeling good. When I'll finish my cycle I'll restore the previous dosage of the snri and I'll write a log about it in pct.
Let me know if you have had similar experience
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Why not just stay on your prescribed dosage of antidepressant? It doesn't matter if you are taking steroids or not, DO NOT change the dose of your antidepressants just because you are taking steroids.
I love telling experience stories.
My friends was diagnosed with BiPolar depression. I would have thought manic depression because he was happy one minute and depressed the next, maybe the same. Sometimes he would be so depressed he would not get out of bed for days. For many years we watched him play Yo-Yo with wanting to kill himself and wanting to smile until his lips fell off. Fast forward a little. He tried to get me to go to tje gym with him but at the time I was working so much I could not find the time as there were no 24 hour gyms where we lived. He started hanging around with the gym rats and they introduced him to steroids. His doctor told him it was not a good idea and we did too but who the fuck were we. He felt really great for a few weeks. Change started happening, he started getting worse with his depression as now I know was his hormone roller coaster. He would come over my house and look fine then start crying for no reason. I asked him if he was still on his meds and he said yes but they were making him feel worse so he started upping his dose and it was doing the opposite. He said he had no sex drive at all and the guy at the gym that gave him his aas told him to take more. I told him it was time to stop and see his doctor. We did not see him for 3 weeks after his doctor appointment. We stopped by his moms house and he was there and she told us he hasnt left her house in 3 weeks. He was no longer taking the aas and was not using any pct so he was zero test. He looked like hell. He was so depressed his eyes were puffed from crying. A week later he killed himself. Knowing what I know now I can guarantee it was due to the drop in test level mixed with the antidepressant. Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain that can get worse when you add other chemicals, why the fuck do you think the doctors need to know every little thing you are taking before they prescribe an anti depressant? Fucking with your hormones while taking an anti depressant is playing russian roulette. Be fkn smart and put the aas down and tell your doctor how stupid you are. Get the fuck back on the doctor prescribed dose and see a therapist. Or kill yourself.
Damn that's deep.... That should open anyone's eyes
This really is a bad cycle, the only positive I can see is it's only for 4 weeks. Just make sure it is, don't extend it ffs.
150mg provi a day may make you feel good now but wait till you stop, consider tapering it down rather than drop the lot at the end. Test levels will take a while to come back up, I'd get a pharma pct. Don't be deluded about 30mg shutting you down, 10mg will do that for you. I've never heard of anyone ever saying thing's like, upped the dose and now I feel good, self medicating for mood with aas is completely irresponsible. I've read that proviron was prescribed for mood enhancement so you could be setting yourself for a real fall.
And like Vike asked below, why provi and dbol?
You feel shit now wait till your E2 hits the deck with that mesterolone dosage.............. fkn hell!!
My E2 are average now, I've 30 mg of dbol too
who told you to run dbol and provi?........... whats your thinking behind this explain please...... you dont mention liver support at all either
you do realise that your liver will take a beasting dont you?
I've got a supplement with milk thistle and glutathione for liver
I will tell you now that supplement not going to cut it
for liver support.....
Like Vike said your liver going to take a beating and I doubt anything going to do you any good with those orals seems....
Only run one oral always and always start a very very good liver support a week or two before start of oral compound....
unreal89Your liver values are still going to be trashed but hey to each his own
Bloodwork, or it didn't happen...
Where did I wrote anything about my med? I don't share this type of information, I've said that I've got my reasons and these aren't your business (especially after I've seen your answers). I only want to know if anyone has similar experience stop.
If you are ashamed of telling us what drug you are on then why ask for help? The best way for us to help you is for you to be honest and explain everything you are taking. No one will judge you if you are on 10 different massive dosage anti-psychotics or the smallest dose of cymbalta/prozac or some other AD. This is important information and you need to be open about what you are on so people can better help you. Maybe other users here are taking the same meds you are. If you share what you are taking, people can better assist you
Bro, I'm not trying to have a go at you and piss you off! I'm trying to tell you, from a holistic perspective, that what you are doing, currently, is unethical in medical practice. That's all. I'm not here to rattle people's cages and cause frustration. Is there another language you comprehend where I can speak to you and get you to understand? Please let me know. If you'd like PM me, that's fine, please send me an FR. Thanks! Stay solid, stay focused, stay strong!!!
It's an open forum, bro...if you think me asking you these questions aren't my business, then don't put your information out there for people to view it.
I see what you're doing based off what you're telling me and it's wrong...do some more research and get yourself fixed...
Why do you think that I haven't done enough research? You're just continuing to write wrong conclusions, maybe you don't know my situation and you shouldn't talk about it? Just maybe? You know 10% and you pretend to say something about it, isn't it arrogance? Then you are pulling down my karma for no reason
I've said what I'm saying. Read in my forums, bro!! Respect and Honesty goes two ways...you aren't listening to me, so yea I hit your karma. I will give it back, dude, just wake up and communicate with me. You're the one being belligerent, and it shows.
I have listened to you lol and I've understood your position, maybe it could be a legit reaction if you don't know my situation but I'm not stupid, I know the risk and I've got several reasons to do it. Dbol and proviron is a 4 week oral cycle. I know what you all think about oral only cycle and it's correct, in fact next time I'll use test, I wanted to see how my whole body reacts to aas and that's one of my reasons but I don't want to talk about me, I wanna know if anyone has similar experience with these drugs
If your taking prescribed medication for a psychological mental disorder, you don't decrease the dose of it without letting the doc know, first, and you surely don't increase anabolics to titrate your mood....yea I'm sure the doc wants you on 150mg of Provi and 30mg of dbol....real smart...
Why do I have to give similar personal information to people that I don't know? Lol... I've asked only if anyone has similar experience
Lol... Do you feel better now that you're insulting someone for a disease? You are so stupid that I expect that you had run tren as first cycle
You never explained a disease that you were diagnosed with by an MD that required psychotropic medical intervention. We are all ears...
I do feel better about getting you to respond, so we can talk to you about what you're doing...
I've asked if anyone has similar experience, not to judge mine. Your qi must be under Plank constant
Oh you're gonna get some responses just wait..
I've got my reasons to do it, why do you say something about it if you don't even know my situation? You are ignorant and stupid
Explain the reasoning behind what you're doing, then.
Really? That's fkn funny because if I was I wouldn't be in your forum trying to figure out why you are actually using drugs to begin with...
thanks...
Still you haven't understood the point of my topic.. You're just continuing to spit sentences...
Then provide a full history and rationale of why you think increasing the dbol and proviron dosages, along with decreasing the dosage of your psych meds, is a smart thing to do...
Yea....Let's hear it guys....who wants to cosign this rubbish....get a grip OP...GET OFF THE STEROIDS...............
This is fked up too! You're on drugs for mental health issues and you decrease the prescribed dosage by half? WTF? Then, you increase dosages of a combination of unpresrcibed AAS, that's not even a cycle? Why? Why? Why? Damn!! :(
Why? He said it himself. He's mentally disturbed.
The line between insanity and genius is very thin.
We are all mental disturbed
I resemble that remark.
edit :please replace resemble with resent.
Too bad we don't have a section for the mentally disturbed....
the Mods do have a butterfly net
The normal way it is done is:
1) Some Eroids member (you) distracts said fool with questions.
2) A couple Mods with said butterfly net sneak up behind distracted fool.
3) ..........
4) They are gone.
Yep...I knew there was method to this madness...lol