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How do we know genetic hgh is indeed for humans

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how do we know this china hgh isn't in fact egh (equine) or bovine?

I work in the vet field and egh has the same ingredients as humatrope minus the type of gh
(Methionyl equine somatotropin vs somatopin)

When people try egh they get nasty welts and pain. Basically they get effects just like that of most China generics we use. If all ingredients are the same minus the type of growth hormone, the reaction shouldn't be based on other things in the gh. Obviously purity and such is an issue buy I wonder.

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I was actually wondering this last night. Fortunately humans cannot process the bgh proteins. That said for whatever reason people who consume dairy from cattle have a 10% higher igf levels. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin

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Odd though right? same negative reaction with egh and many china generic hgh.

HailRazor's picture

(Xhinese generics) It's most likely elevated endotoxins.....but we've never tested to confirm that consistent welts is caused by this (probably is) :

http://www.biosyn.com/endotoxin-detection-and-removal-services.aspx

It's a purification process in manufacturing rHGH (protein)

To save $$ this process might not be done properly

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Bovine? cattle?

Theonslaught's picture

Yes

HailRazor's picture

Oh......

Human 191 aa 22,125 Da (molecular mass)

Cow 190 aa 21,741 Da (molecular mass)

A simple Mass Spec (Identify M/W) would determine this (2 different species)

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I read somewhere that some equine was tested
Still 191 but different chain sequence.
Idk what that means...lol

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Then what's up with the 191 talk when a certain brand was "tested"

Thanks for this man.

HailRazor's picture

There was a blue top that tested 192aa Somatren awhile back

The RipTropins may have been 192aa Somatrem

The recent testing of "Generics" has been 191 aa Somatropin

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What about these famous brands here that have caused reactions.

I can't remember but did ur @$$!tropin just say
anything bout 191. The brand that tested 17 iu or something

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Generic not genetic... F$@K!

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Will they find equine or whatever?

It will say somatotropin sure but

IrishMack's picture

Maybe not, they might be looking for certain identifiers based on the test. Thanks for the information about gh and bovine mimicking almost exact

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Well Idk bout bovine. But horse stuff seems a Lil fishy

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Damn it! This phone