really need help about estradiol and my situation
Hey guys so basically i recently got mid cycle bloodwork on my low test tren cycle, (125 mg test, 50mg eod tren) and usually my trt dose has me at 20nmol testosterone (range 8-30) the day before my pin
however when i got my most recent blood test i got blood drawn a little over 24 hrs after my pin, my test came back at 48! and i was also on tren ace at the dose stated above.
is it posibble that the peak of testosterone is that high (48) in relation to having have waited another 5 days in which it would be (20)
or is my tren just fake and actually test?
also my estradiol was 600! should be (50-150)
does tren cause wierd estradiol readings?
also what arimidex dosage should i start at? my doctor said 1mg a day!! which i think is ridiculous!!
appreciate any help guys really need it!!!!
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Looks like we had a little rumble in this thread and after reading the latest info posted about the aussie method of E2 readings.......... its clear that the OP could have been written better and stating more facts, this is the same shit as when i ask for MGS or MCGS in posts instead of CCs.
A clearer factual post would have made this thread easier to deal with and would have dissuaded friction between two members who are keen to info information.
To Rusty and ProptestagenC i hope you make up via PM and friend up again..... i have been in many wars on here and to be honest its just fkn stupid..... if a post like this pops up again and is incomplete please push hard for further/deeper info to resolve the issue before a fkn silly, stupid thread war kicks off.
For me .... i will be familiarising myself with this Aussie nmol testing system just in case we come across this issue in the future.
Have a good day guys...... now fuck off while i have a quick nap :/........... lmfao.
RustyhookerThere's no war sir. Just improper testing. The OP didn't need to use 1mg adex daily when tren skews the results. Simple to take correct test.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updated-3-tren-causing-...
OP question...
also my estradiol was 600! should be (50-150)
does tren cause wierd estradiol readings?
Per research posted by megat883 on the link above, both questions are answered. Wrong test. Skewed results.
I will keep this in mind and clarify measurements better in the future.
to be fair, i DID note the "ranges" of the estradiol and testosterone readings, if anyone payed notice they would see that 50-150 isnt pg ranges
Are you still getting the correct E2 test, since 160 is out of range on high side and you've been on the tren?
retesting next week no tren bro :))
Ok thanks...
RustyhookerDACKY below..... +2 for knowing your biz
Testrogen_PropC...Just off a gut feeling I'm thinking your trenbolone could be test prop. That would answer why your test and estro values are so high. But it is definitely possible the tren could just be throwing off your bloodwork values too. Low tren slightly throws mine off, but never THAT drastic.
Can you take a picture of your vial of tren without showing the brand/label? I'm wanting to see the oil itself. Also, what kind of side effects have you been feeling from this blast?
ETA- start your adex at .5 EOD and taper up if needed. 1mg every day is a terrible starting point.
i was thinking that too, the oil is dark orange if thats what you wanna know, no bloat or gyno or any e2 symptoms, still get morning woode etc, good lean str gains
Dark orange..................... sounds like tren with a little oxidation, ive never seen test go that colour.
RustyhookerPlease research more before you post crap advice.
Tell us how you'd feel with estro at 600.....that even sound normal in any way?
Smh....
Agree...that's some shitty advice....smh...telling someone to take drugs when OP should be retesting estradiol using another test. Someone's critical judgement done fell in the toilet....lmao
Testrogen_PropC...If you re-read his post "how would you feel with estro at 600" i feel like he is saying OP should take MORE adex than I recommended. So I don't see how you're agreeing with that when your opinion is another blood test and no adex at all.
I'm going to just add this here now since I don't feel like getting into a flame fest. I still think it's very possible that tren skewed his results as well, but I'd imagine if his estro showed 600 that his estro is probably still elevated even if it isn't 600. But since on 875mg of test a week .25 adex ED gets my estrogen in normal range, I still think OP's doctors recommendation of 1mg adex ED is a terrible starting point.
RustyhookerDon't "FEEL" like anything. Read the facts as presented. Lol common sense. You ever gotten high estro? Blood tested it to check your e2? I guarantee that above 150 most dudes cry at the drop of a hat, water swollen, nipples barking.
So how does 600 sound????
And since you do not know that TREN skews e2, you shouldn't be answering. You should be researching the facts presented below on choosing the PROPER testing methods.
Posting to hit high dose of adex without knowing what your talking about is a hazard. I'd be damn posted if I woke up with my joints on fire because some clown popped me up so high estro crashed all because WRONG blood tests.
stick to what you know. Don't feel. Ask questions. Learn. I cited megat883 for a reason. Read his works. Join his blood group.
Testrogen_PropC...I'm actually going to give you a +1 for this because it's the nicest post I've seen you make yet. I was expecting the regular "you're an idiot -2" lol
And you're right, he should get bloodwork done again off of tren before taking any adex. But I hardly find .5 EOD to be a high dose, especially when his doctor is telling him to take 1mg ED
RustyhookerDude....im getting short on patience here. If the damn test is WRONG....which I GUARANTEE it is then why crash dudes estro?
You find me 1 REAL doctor that knows anything whatsoever about what we do here...ILL GIVE YOU 1000 OF MY KARMA!!!
READ what I posted and cited. Do not come back til you're educated!
Testrogen_PropC...He already said he's going to retest his bloods off tren first man I don't know what you're getting your blood pressure spiked over. I already told you that you were right lmao
RustyhookerBut I hardly find .5 EOD to be a high dose, especially when his doctor is telling him to take 1mg ED
Blood test is incorrect. The OP does not need to retake test off of tren. He simply needs to take the CORRECT type of test.
Test is incorrect. So why crash dudes estro?
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Testrogen_PropC...Tell you what, im not worried about the karma but after he gets his off tren bloodwork back, if his estro is elevated you give me those 2 karma back, and if his estro isn't elevated, you can give me -2 more. Deal?
RustyhookerHow bout I knock 2 more for your b.s. catfishing this thread. 600 e2....is not real
keep in mind guys its 600 pmol, which is roughly 160 pg/ml in your units, im aussie
Testrogen_PropC...Lol! That's a good tidbit to know.
I have just fixed your karma situation............... the whole thread is a sham through misinformation re aussie test readings........... be cool bro and just put it down to experience
Testrogen_PropC...Thank you brother and will do!
Dacky- thank you as well sir.
surely that would be ridiculously high aromatisation of 125mg of enanthate by itself?? the tren would have to be causing that reading?
Testrogen_PropC...Probably so. I wasn't aware that there was 2 different tests that test for the same exact shit, but 1 is somehow tren proof, but I'm taking rusty's word for it.
What I was originally thinking was that your tren could either have test mixed in it, or be test itself, but the dark orange color you described is on point for trenbolone.
You don't have to take just his word for it fella. It's pretty well documented. Here's the link I posted right at the beginning - https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updatedwhat-blood-test...
Hopefully this is helpful.
reputable source with many vouching for the tren so im pretty sure ive got the real deal, plus acne went way up on he tren on my forehead (im thinking dht related) because i never had acne on 600 test with no ai
will retest bloods off tren
Perfect...that's what I like to hear...keep us updated, brother...
Glad you were here to steady the ship. Damn work has got me being able to devote very limited time to anything else right now.
Understandable. Work comes first. It's all good, bro!
will do boys!
Testrogen_PropC...I honestly can't even tell exactly WTF you're going on about here but I don't see anything wrong with him starting adex at .5 EOD, then getting his bloodwork checked again and tapering up if needed. Everybody I've ever heard of starting at 1mg ED felt like COMPLETE shit.
And considering you think tren skewed his values anyways, you either misread my post or have no argument.
Hey bro....how do you know for sure his estradiol is high enough to administer adex at 0.5mg eod? You don't know...NEWS FLASH...neither does he...lol!!
This is the deal, bro, and this is the correct protocol and procedure...OP goes for further retesting of estradiol, he waits for the value, then he intervenes...there's no IF, ANDs, or BUTs about it...lol!!
You don't administer drugs for a potential FALSE/QUESTIONABLE BW value, especially if you want the true value....thanks for understanding!!
If you reply back, make sure it's nice...
my bloods are done through my doctor and a pathology centre, i dont know how they test, but it was "sensitive estradiol" if that helps
Rustyhooker2 different methods for testing your hormone level. On the wrong method, tren is detected as estradiol. So imagine if your estro was only 85 and tren dose makes up the rest.
I've seen guys on 700 tren a per week come in here with e2 in the 600+ range yet are horney as hell, rock hard pecker but scared shirtless because they should have full boobs growing.
RustyhookerYou took the wrong blood test. Tren skews everything.
Magnifying glass....mega883 or groups...blood group.
The proper tests are posted and described
You wouldn't peak that high off of a dose of 125mg test even you took bloodss the day after or whenever you take it. It wouldn't peak that high. Something isn't right. Either test is mixed in with whatever else you are taking or your test is severely overdosed
test is doctor prescribed primotestin :/
Your not the first guy I've seen having crazy high false estro off of tren likely all it is. I don't know where you are getting your tren but consider this if its a source (don't mention the source here in the open forum) that cuts corners it could contain pure estrogen... rare I'm sure but nonetheless . I've seen E2 tests that throw a false high E2 reading as well several bloods posted with crazy high numbers while on tren (likely your issue here) . I'd drop the tren either way and re pull bloods in a month or so I bet your estro will be significantly lower.
Things to consider on untrusted sources of tren like I Said rare probably but not out the realm of possibility :
Cattle use finaplix pellets in the following configurations:
Heifers (female cows before their first calf):
140mg Trenbolone Acetate, and 14mg of Estradiol
Steers (castrated male cattle):
120mg of Trenbolone Acetate and 24mg of Estradiol
Heifers 69 days or less from slaughter:
200mg Trenbolone Acetate
Thought it worth mentioning as well.
Whats the dose and frequency of your TRT regimen?
So....
No...when stable drug levels are achieved and mainatained, especially with long esters, there's a specific amount of time the elevated levels remain high. Are the esters you are using long esters?
Have you been using an AI, while taking the steroids?
If you have at what dose and frequency?
Answer Dacky's questions, please....
125mg test enanthate 1x a week, doesnt long esters still peak then drop? the tren is acetate, and i had no symptoms whatsoever of high e2, no libido issues or anything so i never bothered with ai especially since not using heavy armoatizing compounds
i answered his qns
what more should i let youse know?
thanks!
Specifically, the first sentence regarding cycle history, goals, experience, diet/training and posting your BF, you answered those? Where? Post the info....
Long esters will drop based off how long the half-life is...so that value varies....it's not 5 days, though. The tren acetate has a short half-life. There's info on here that you can research, so you shouldn't be having any issues grasping the concept....
dude i know all about esters and what im taking, my questions where about wether tren skews e2 results, and what the cause of my high testosterone reading on my bloodwork could be, im thinking the tren could actually be test if you get me
i know what im doing i just wanted some advice about the wierd reading, like i said, tren shouldnt raise test or e2 reading should it? if its true tren my test levels should have been 25 like they usually are when i get bloods just on my trt dose
thanks!
and as for my cycle history ive done multiple blasts of test and deca, test and eq, and just recently dabbled in test and tren, bodyfat is about 13-14
thanks man!
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I pulled this from the files....I did a search for tren causing skewed estradiol results...this might help explain what you're going through...I cited the banned member and his current status....
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Oh...you think your Tren is Test...I understand now...my bad bro...
anyone chime in??