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really need help about estradiol and my situation

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Hey guys so basically i recently got mid cycle bloodwork on my low test tren cycle, (125 mg test, 50mg eod tren) and usually my trt dose has me at 20nmol testosterone (range 8-30) the day before my pin

however when i got my most recent blood test i got blood drawn a little over 24 hrs after my pin, my test came back at 48! and i was also on tren ace at the dose stated above.

is it posibble that the peak of testosterone is that high (48) in relation to having have waited another 5 days in which it would be (20)

or is my tren just fake and actually test?

also my estradiol was 600! should be (50-150)

does tren cause wierd estradiol readings?

also what arimidex dosage should i start at? my doctor said 1mg a day!! which i think is ridiculous!!

appreciate any help guys really need it!!!!

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Looks like we had a little rumble in this thread and after reading the latest info posted about the aussie method of E2 readings.......... its clear that the OP could have been written better and stating more facts, this is the same shit as when i ask for MGS or MCGS in posts instead of CCs.

A clearer factual post would have made this thread easier to deal with and would have dissuaded friction between two members who are keen to info information.

To Rusty and ProptestagenC i hope you make up via PM and friend up again..... i have been in many wars on here and to be honest its just fkn stupid..... if a post like this pops up again and is incomplete please push hard for further/deeper info to resolve the issue before a fkn silly, stupid thread war kicks off.

For me .... i will be familiarising myself with this Aussie nmol testing system just in case we come across this issue in the future.

Have a good day guys...... now fuck off while i have a quick nap :/........... lmfao.

MedDx's picture

I will keep this in mind and clarify measurements better in the future.

sidewinder's picture

to be fair, i DID note the "ranges" of the estradiol and testosterone readings, if anyone payed notice they would see that 50-150 isnt pg ranges Smile

MedDx's picture

Are you still getting the correct E2 test, since 160 is out of range on high side and you've been on the tren?

sidewinder's picture

retesting next week no tren bro :))

MedDx's picture

Ok thanks...

sidewinder's picture

i was thinking that too, the oil is dark orange if thats what you wanna know, no bloat or gyno or any e2 symptoms, still get morning woode etc, good lean str gains

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Dark orange..................... sounds like tren with a little oxidation, ive never seen test go that colour.

MedDx's picture

Agree...that's some shitty advice....smh...telling someone to take drugs when OP should be retesting estradiol using another test. Someone's critical judgement done fell in the toilet....lmao Smile

sidewinder's picture

keep in mind guys its 600 pmol, which is roughly 160 pg/ml in your units, im aussie

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I have just fixed your karma situation............... the whole thread is a sham through misinformation re aussie test readings........... be cool bro and just put it down to experience Smile

sidewinder's picture

surely that would be ridiculously high aromatisation of 125mg of enanthate by itself?? the tren would have to be causing that reading?

Dacky's picture

You don't have to take just his word for it fella. It's pretty well documented. Here's the link I posted right at the beginning - https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updatedwhat-blood-test...

Hopefully this is helpful.

sidewinder's picture

reputable source with many vouching for the tren so im pretty sure ive got the real deal, plus acne went way up on he tren on my forehead (im thinking dht related) because i never had acne on 600 test with no ai

sidewinder's picture

will retest bloods off tren Smile

MedDx's picture

Perfect...that's what I like to hear...keep us updated, brother... Smile

Dacky's picture

Glad you were here to steady the ship. Damn work has got me being able to devote very limited time to anything else right now.

MedDx's picture

Understandable. Work comes first. It's all good, bro! Smile

sidewinder's picture

will do boys!

MedDx's picture

Hey bro....how do you know for sure his estradiol is high enough to administer adex at 0.5mg eod? You don't know...NEWS FLASH...neither does he...lol!!

This is the deal, bro, and this is the correct protocol and procedure...OP goes for further retesting of estradiol, he waits for the value, then he intervenes...there's no IF, ANDs, or BUTs about it...lol!!

You don't administer drugs for a potential FALSE/QUESTIONABLE BW value, especially if you want the true value....thanks for understanding!!

If you reply back, make sure it's nice... Smile

sidewinder's picture

my bloods are done through my doctor and a pathology centre, i dont know how they test, but it was "sensitive estradiol" if that helps

Makwa's picture

You wouldn't peak that high off of a dose of 125mg test even you took bloodss the day after or whenever you take it. It wouldn't peak that high. Something isn't right. Either test is mixed in with whatever else you are taking or your test is severely overdosed

sidewinder's picture

test is doctor prescribed primotestin :/

twistedsister's picture

Your not the first guy I've seen having crazy high false estro off of tren likely all it is. I don't know where you are getting your tren but consider this if its a source (don't mention the source here in the open forum) that cuts corners it could contain pure estrogen... rare I'm sure but nonetheless . I've seen E2 tests that throw a false high E2 reading as well several bloods posted with crazy high numbers while on tren (likely your issue here) . I'd drop the tren either way and re pull bloods in a month or so I bet your estro will be significantly lower.
Things to consider on untrusted sources of tren like I Said rare probably but not out the realm of possibility :

Cattle use finaplix pellets in the following configurations:

Heifers (female cows before their first calf):
140mg Trenbolone Acetate, and 14mg of Estradiol

Steers (castrated male cattle):
120mg of Trenbolone Acetate and 24mg of Estradiol

Heifers 69 days or less from slaughter:
200mg Trenbolone Acetate

Thought it worth mentioning as well.

MedDx's picture

usually my trt dose has me at 20nmol testosterone 

Whats the dose and frequency of your TRT regimen?

however when i got my most recent blood test i got blood drawn a little over 24 hrs after my pin, my test came back at 48! and i was also on tren ace at the dose stated above.

So....

is it posibble that the peak of testosterone is that high (48) in relation to having have waited another 5 days in which it would be (20)

No...when stable drug levels are achieved and mainatained, especially with long esters, there's a specific amount of time the elevated levels remain high. Are the esters you are using long esters?

also my estradiol was 600! should be (50-150)

Have you been using an AI, while taking the steroids?
If you have at what dose and frequency?

Answer Dacky's questions, please.... Smile

sidewinder's picture

125mg test enanthate 1x a week, doesnt long esters still peak then drop? the tren is acetate, and i had no symptoms whatsoever of high e2, no libido issues or anything so i never bothered with ai especially since not using heavy armoatizing compounds

i answered his qns Smile

what more should i let youse know?

thanks!

MedDx's picture

Specifically, the first sentence regarding cycle history, goals, experience, diet/training and posting your BF, you answered those? Where? Post the info....

Long esters will drop based off how long the half-life is...so that value varies....it's not 5 days, though. The tren acetate has a short half-life. There's info on here that you can research, so you shouldn't be having any issues grasping the concept....

sidewinder's picture

dude i know all about esters and what im taking, my questions where about wether tren skews e2 results, and what the cause of my high testosterone reading on my bloodwork could be, im thinking the tren could actually be test if you get me

i know what im doing i just wanted some advice about the wierd reading, like i said, tren shouldnt raise test or e2 reading should it? if its true tren my test levels should have been 25 like they usually are when i get bloods just on my trt dose

thanks!

and as for my cycle history ive done multiple blasts of test and deca, test and eq, and just recently dabbled in test and tren, bodyfat is about 13-14

thanks man!

MedDx's picture

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replyDickkhead 2 years ago

No bro, Labcorp's ElectroChemiLuminescence ImmunoAssay (ECLIA) from Roche Diagnostics cannot distinguish Tren metabolites from E2 (estradiol) and gives a false high reading for E2 for patients using Trenbolone. Quest uses a different technology for measuring E2 and will give an accurate reading of E2 while you are on Tren.

I pulled this from the files....I did a search for tren causing skewed estradiol results...this might help explain what you're going through...I cited the banned member and his current status....

twistedsister's picture

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MedDx's picture

Oh...you think your Tren is Test...I understand now...my bad bro... Smile

sidewinder's picture

anyone chime in??