+ 1 Gonna try something else
Stats
37
5'-8"
180lbs
16-18% Bf
Goals
To give my body a chance to normalize after 2+ years of self medicated TRT and to see if Clomid monotherapy is a viable option.
Test C
Week 1-2. 50mg Monday and Thursday
HCG
Week 1-2. 1666iu eod
Week 3. 1000iu eod
Week 4-6. 500iu oed
Clomid
Week 6-9. 50mg daily
Week 10-11. 25mg daily
Week 12-16. 25mg eod
Nolva
Week 6-7. 20mg daily
Week 8-9. 10mg daily
Aromasin
Week 1-8. as needed
I've been on some form and dose of exogenous Test since October 2013 and I'm just not seeing the positive results I did for the first year or so. Muscle tone is still good but libido, energy, and memory are all pretty terrible right now. I've been at 125mg/wk or less for the last 8-9 months and my overall well being has steadily declined. So I've decided to run this pct/clomid monotherapy and see what happens. I welcome all coments, questions, insults, and smart ass comments. There is alot of shit I should've done differently over the last 2+ years and that is why I've chose this new protocol to basically get a new starting point. Once I stop the low dose clomid my plan is to stay off of everything for 3 months then see where I'm at.
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Sorry I haven't updated in forever but I finally made the jump and I'm off. My last pin was 3 weeks ago and I started the HCG last week. I haven't had any negative changes in mood or libido and feel pretty damn good. I'm gonna start the Clomid tonight and see how that goes. I blasted the HCG at 1250iu eod last week and I dropped it down to 500iu ed this week.
Just an update, I'm still waiting on all of my pct meds to show up but I've made some progress. I was able to get my hands on what appears to be legit Watson test cyp and I started it 5 weeks ago. I've been pinning 50mg 2x week and it's night and day. I'm still not %100 but sex drive is good and I'm not dead tired like I was. Hopefully I can manage to get some bloods done before I come off so I can find out where my test and estrogen levels are.
Thank you for keeping us posted! This is cool to see how things are progressing for you.
As things change I'll continue to update. I'm really hoping my work schedule will allow bloodwork so it's not a guessing game
Have you done any blood test recently?
The comment about energy and memory not being very good right now could also point towards thyroid rather than testosterone.
The dumb shit I mentioned was not getting blood work. Like never! That's why I want to come off so I can get a new baseline. The job I have makes it almost impossible to get bloods done so I've just been going by feel. I feel like shit and can't get bloods done so the responsible thing to do is come off. You make a great point about possibly being a thyroid issue, I'll definitely add that to the laundry list of blood work I need to get done.
Believe me when I tell you,....... low testosterone is a breeze compared to low thyroid.
There is a reason thyroid is called the master hormone.
Thanks for the input so far guys. My reasoning for the lower doses is to reduce the chances of the nasty Clomid side effects and hope that by running it longer I'll still see positive results. I'm not delusional and I know my chances are low, of having acceptable test levels when I get to the end of this. I'll keep updating once I start this up.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. This is good to learn from (with) you.
aromasin- 12.5-12.5-12.5-12.5
nolvadex- 60-40-40-40-40-40-40-40
clomid- 150-100-100-50-50-50
hcg blasted- 1500ius eod 1-9 then aromasin begins again for one week after hcg @ 12.5mgs a day
daa- 3000mgs am/ pm
this is better^^^^^^^
the self prescribed trt is bad, but i was stupid a few years back abusing aas to be honest, what ever i had my hands on i jabbed, i blasted 1800mgs of test e, 1200mgs of deca, 800mgs of eq for like 10 months plus i was mixing in all types of orals on and off like dbol and anadrol even superdrol etc etc just hanging with the wrong guys in the gym etc etc i ran the above and i was lucky enough to recover.
@TheFlash85, holy shit brother, you were one reckless maniac! I'm glad you're around now to share your experiences with this community (and with guys like me).
I've never been tempted by the "seductive thinking that AAS is magic" but after being here, I've learned that there are WAY TOO MANY MEN who abuse the shit out of AAS hoping that it'll be the "magic pill."
It really is a marathon, not a sprint. Thank you for adding your voice to these conversations. I've learned so damn much, my gratitude is immense.
Thanks for sharing. +1
I'll be following this one. I wish you the bet of luck.
The dosage and duration of a lot of that is debatable especially the Clomid and nolva(they're about 1/2 of a standard pct)but I like the overall plan. Get off, get bloods done, reassess. I like it man good luck.