posted Sat, 04/23/2016 - 19:24
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Hi guys
Just wonderig if any ones ever ran a cycle like this before and how was you strength and muscle gains
How much weight you gained
How strong did yous get
Did you enjoy the cycle
1500mg test e
1000mg eq
500mg tren e
Anadrol 50-100mg ed
Any input or advice would be appreciated
Thanks guys
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You will earn room in the hospital for
Long time including the food . And maybe kidney cleaning and transferring blood .
Cheers
RustyhookerBeen here since 2012....learned NOTHING.
NEXT!
What makes you say that
Sure looks like overkill. We need much more info to advise more (length of each compound, AI, pct, etc.).
12 week cycle
Anadrol first 4 weeks and last 4 weeks
Test e for 12 weeks
Tren e for 12 weeks
Eq for 12 weeks
Arimidex 1mg every other day
For pct id need advice on because ive never done a cycle this high before
And your first cycle was what?
Your 19nor duration is wrong, No mention of prolactin control... Cmon...
If you can't figure out what a proper PCT is... Then you SERIOUSLY need to go back to the drawing board and start learning the basics. You can't just mush shit together hoping it sticks and that one of us will patch it together and green light it.
My first cycle was 1 amp sustanon 250mg every week for 8 weeks
Thats the only cycle i ever got the sensitive nipple feeling where you feel something playing in nipples
It was at week 4
After that the doses have increased and i never got that feeling again
Some people told me it was because it was my first cycle and genetic
But thats another topic lol
No i do know a basic pct protocol but youd think that for a cycle mentioned above it would be different
Also guys a different topic again
ever since i started using juice untill now ive never not once gotten testicular atrophy/shrinkage
Some told me it was due to genitic also
What do you guys think
I think you should do a hell of a lot more research before touching anymore aas. Start here:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/noobs-guide-on-h...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/how-to-succe...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-when...
Got his priorities "sdrawkcab"...
Its OPs second cycle, too...eeeeek!!
Sounds like a case of drugs over diet, hard work and time.
He is claiming multiple cycles down below...but the noted cycle plan is still overkill for his stats...
You will need to drop a unit mid cycle regardless of dosage decrease...whats the length of cycle?
Im not fimilliar with that term can you explain please
Drop a unit=donate blood
Oh ok gotcha
I get about 3-4 full blood work every year does that count or isnt it enough
When people say your arteries turn into pudding does this mean my blood will thicken up
Thanks medx
No thats no where near enough. A unit is about 600 cc's...
Yes. The blood becomes thicker because of how steroid hormones work to keep you in a positive nitrogen balance.
Richard.SimmonsStats please, also one would think if you been body building for 7 Years ? You would know a thing or two just about "Diet" ?
25 years old
98-100kg
Been training for about 7 years
I dont know what you mean bro
I do have a fair bit of knowledge on nutrition
It'll be this comment you made he's referring to I suspect:
Looks like you're looking at replacing the nutrition with huge amounts of drugs.
A little AAS + great nutrition = results
A lot of AAS + poor nutrition = moving backwards
You've run a ridiculous amount of test on your previous cycle. Time to take a step back and evaluate what you're doing.
Yea why i got over the eating is because it was like plain rice boiled potato chicken etc
But i learnt that i gotta kind of loosen up on my diet and it should be easier
There should be a difference between bulking and cutting
So like i said i was kinda eating diet food
And i lost appetite for that food
Too many guys talk about eating the same thing day in day out. No chance I'm doing that! Competition prep, yes, but it's not necessary outside of that in my opinion.
this is Waaay to much. your arteries will become pudding.
I would personally cut the dosages down by half and add Hgh.
i'd cut it thirds
500 test
300 eq
125 tren
12.5 a bombs for 4 weeks to kickstart.
then add AI etc.
then be sure to donate blood.
I didnt see that earlier before i posted...i am sure OP will appreciate seein it twice...
A third of it seems a bit low to me just from previous cycles
But it looks like a good cycle to do
Thanks bro
I done a test e only cycle
I was using 1000mg a week but by week 4 or 5 i wasn't feeling anything major probbably underdosed
So i added another 2 ampules of test e so total was 1500mg
The weeks that followed i felt awsoume
Strength went up every week lifts where easier
Weight went up every week
Muscles where fuller bigger
The weight i stopped at was 105kg
I 100% couldve gained more weight from that cycle
But i dont know what happened to me i couldnt eat
I was eating 2-3 meals and still at that weight
200g protein 250 carbs
For me i felt that dose of test was the best for me
Only cycle is a single compound and your second cycle plan looks like this? Did i miss something? :-/
No ive done multiple cycles using different compounds
One of them was a test e only cycle where i went from 1000mg to 1500mg
And made a huge difference
iVerdad...yo comprendo! Yea a conversion factor i read on here is .77. So, 1500 x .77 would equal 1155mg of test, so thats probably why you noticed a difference. But, you shouldnt ramp up the dose without having the mass and time. Someone that is 250-260lbs and has a 7KCAL diet could use a dose that high.
X 2 I've given him some macros below. Simple test only cycle if he follows that plan will yield excellent results.
And, 25 of Provi every day (to unbind test from SHBG) starting week 3 up until PCT starts....along with 320 of Saw Palmetto ed....
Ah yes. Good call on the provi. More free test available.
Full stats please fella including BF.
Lat out out diet plan for this cycle. I'm not surprised you were not growing at 200g of protein and 250g of carbs. I've taken that in by lunchtime and then some.
Bf never really got it tested but probably 15 percent but im still in good shape
Protein would be 300g
Carbs would be 500g
If u can give me a opinion on a diet
for me i try to eat clean so i find it very hard to eat all that food
Ok so this comments about food and all those above is at he heart of the matter. You need to eat properly to see results. No amount of gear will compensate for this fact. What you're proposing is ridiculous in terms of the amount of gear. Try running a simple test only cycle with a properly constructed diet of the right foods and see how that works for you.
So specifically and using Harris Benedict your BMR is 2074 calories per day and with heavy activity this puts your TDEE at 3526 to maintain your current weight. So add 1000 calories to this for a bulk and you get to 4526 calories per day. I would break this up to 350g protein, 500g carbs and 126g fat. Most of this should come from whole foods (as little protein powders and bars as possible) and keep your carbs about 80% complex with the other 20% simple carbs around workouts. Plenty of volume 6 days a week training with a little bit of cardio (max twice per week). 8 hours sleep and 6 to 8 litre of water per day. Like Cat said above it doesn't have to be boring and with Jose calories and macros there is no reason for it to get boring. As your weight goes up remember to adjus your calories up (mainly by adding carbs).
Pull blood before to establish your baseline and then mid cycle and post PCT.
Thanks dacky
Yeah for me to maintain my current body weight im eating about 3500 calories
How im starting to aproach my diet when bulking is it dosnt matter how i reach those macros just reach them every day.
Or am i wrong to think like this
Because honestly its very hard for me to reach 4500 cals eating just chicken rice
You do know there are other forms of protein and carbs aside from chicken and rice correct?
If you can't eat the way you need to for this lifestyle, then this isn't for you... There's no other way to put it.
But mate you have a lot of calories to play with so your diet should consist of things like:
Whole eggs
Whole milk
Oats
Sweet potato
Regular potato
Brown rice
Quinoa
Flax seed
Pasta
Yoghurt (full and low fat versions)
Some more refined or sugary carbs for around workout
Chicken
Steak
Ground beef
Pork
Lamb
Offal (if you like it)
Almost anything. Use myfitnesspal to track your calories and macros. Get creative in the kitchen with herbs and spices and try new recipes our. Use the tracker to plan in advance.
Perfect...if OP does this like you suggested, i see a solid 10-15lbs muscle keeper....nice and professional bro...good work
Gyno. Lots and lots of gyno! I hope you just forgot to include AI and caber? Your 5'7" 215lbs which is pretty decent size, but over 3 grams of gear a week? No need for all that! What's next? 4 grams? 5? Your young. Stay under 2 grams a week total and concentrate on eating. Nutrition is the answer, not a ton of gear. Especially considering your age and current physique.
Yeah what you said makes sense bro
Yea i always have an ai on hand
And ill be getting caber
Ive kinda platoud.and i think your right about nutrition.but im finding it so hard to eat more ive been bodybuilding for about 7 years. And im so over the eating part of it man.but its a must and you gotta do it
ill probably lower the doses
But who ever runs this kind of cycle should expect to blow up or am i wrong
But like you said where do you go from there fukn hell
Have you ever ran something like that
There's a ceiling on how fast and how much you can grow. it doesn't matter how much you pin, you'll oversaturate your receptors and destroy your heart, kidneys, liver, and your entire cardiac system. your veins and arteries will become pudding. I'm not exaggerating. Go 'head, follow Bostin Lloyd into an early grave.
X2...thumbs up...agreed