High Estradiol and VERY Low FST - 4 Months Post Cycle - help
Hey Broskis,
You guys helped me out a lot after my hard first cycle with Anavar / Winstrol / Proviron and then without any time off a few weeks of Test Sust.
Anyway, if you recall, I was on top of the world and then out of no where my estrogen shot up, I had breakouts of forehead acne, my chest got bitch tits and I was all depressed and lost my mojo, all within 2 weeks.
Well after a long 2 months of PCT, that brought us to around the end of January. I was keeping most of my gains through then but lost any motivation to workout from mid Jan to end of March, and ate like crap too. It's been 4 weeks and I've been trying so hard to get in the gym and eat like I was on cycle, but it's like 2 days good, 1 or 2 days bad, repeat.
The positive is my MIND has been back since January. Toward the end of the cycle and all through PCT, I could not focus on work. I would put everything off and not care about work, just food and sex. It was so bad. I got careless with money and responsibilities (and that's the opposite of who I am). Anyway, that all thankfully resolved the last 2 months.
Well here's the new problem. 3 weeks ago I got bloods done because I have been lethargic and could not care less about sex and even when I do get somewhat horny and try to masterbate, my dick getslimp and it takes a ton of effort to ejaculate and stay hard. I get hard when aroused no problem, but my boners get soft easily and don't feel nearly as 'full' pre cycle and on cycle.
I'm not depressed, my mind is sharp and I'm laser focused on work, which is Great, but now I have a pretty low sex drive, which is concerning as I'm normally a nympho lol.
The blood results showed my Test appears to be pretty good for being off now for 4+ months woohoo! BUT The estrogen is high and the FSH is Extremely low.
WITHIN RANGE:
Total Testosterone: 714 ng/dL
Free Testosterone: 67.4 pg/mL
LH: 4.3 mIU/mL
Prolactin: 5.4 nG/mL
Progesterone, LC/MS/MS: <0.1 nG/mL
OUT OF RANGE
Estradiol: 46 pg/mL (HIGH)
FSH: 1.1 mIU/mL (SUPER LOW)
I'm concerned about the high E and extremely low FSH. I Googled it but didn't find much on the FSH. If you recall, I went to an Endocrinologist who diagnosed the bitch tits after cycle and got me on Nolvadex, which I also took Eximistine and Clomid to add to the power of it as the Nolva alone didn't seem to help as much.
Everything seemed fine 2 months later so I went off. Maybe I wasn't "ready" to go off yet? Do I go back on some similar PCT protocal even though it's been 4+ months since I've been on cycle? Maybe just get on a low dose E Blocker?
Items I have at my disposal today if needed, are:
PILL
Clomid
Nolvadex
Arimidex
Aromasin
PEPTIDES
Clomid
Aromasin
Well logically speaking I figured to just go back to the Endo for a follow-up but the problem is his office staff is a bunch of nut jobs and are a nightmare to work with so I could not even make an appointment with them so am either going to look for another doctor, or more preferably get advice from the community as it already cost me $500 for the 3 visits and 2 bloods I've done.
Thanks for any guidance/suggestions related to fixing/solving the issue of:
- Not too motivated to stay consistent in gym
- Fat buildup
- Muscle form/tightness loss
- Estrogen buildup
- Low FST
- Low sex drive
- Soft erections
- Desire to eat like crap lately
Thank You!!!
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This sounds like a thyroid issue to me, especially if your last cycle was heavy and especially if you used tren. If you want to handle this solo, get a thyroid panel and post here.
Things should get better over time. Going to an endo, if I'm right, will mean T3/T4. Not always a good choice.
I would try OTC options like NOW Thyroid Energy or Forskolin. Powder City has a good and cheap forskolin capsule concoction. You can get the NOW product anywhere - they sell it at Fairway in NYC or Amazon.
I personally think that, after 35, there is no harm in running clomid at all times off cycle. Use 25mg per day or even EOD.
But, having been in a similar state where I could barely work, don't delay.
Sounds like your plan to find a new endo is a good idea. All your bloods look ok from a hormonal perspective apart from your very slightly high e2. I would be surprised if this alone was causing your issue but as everyone is different I would say it worth using some aro to reduce (and not crash) your estro. I suggest start on 6.25mg EOD for 2 weeks and see if your have any improvement to how your are feeling and of course run bloods again. Then go from there in terms of dosage adjustment - increasing aro dose/frequency if e2 still "high" or a short tapering off or just stop the aro if e2 levels are "normal" and you're feeling better. My initial thought was high prolactin but your numbers are fine so it can't be that. How was your full blood count, liver function test and renal/electrolytes?
Liver, Electrolytes, Full blood panel all perfect. What I don't get is the extreme low FSH. From what I understand, that can cause a lot of the weak erections, lower sex drive and some other issues.
Maybe do 6.25 EOD for a couple weeks of Aromasin?
I don't know about low FSH causing those symptoms but I'm not an expert. I do know low FSH is likely to cause low sperm count and ultimately fertility. Try the aro as suggested to reduce your estro. I think you're going to have to speak to an endo about the FSH questions although maybe others can chime in.
PS, 35 years old, 5'11, 190 lbs