loss of appetite while on tren ace test cyp cycle
So I'm on week 2 of a test cyp tren ace cycle.
Test: 600mgs/w split Monday300/Friday300
Tren: 500mgs/w 100mgs Ed w/two non pin days
Age:21
Weight:191
Bf: 13/14%
lifting. 7years
Powerlifting: 3years
Needing help with this cycle. Ran 4 others prior to this one. Two in 2013. Two in 2014. None 2015.
So I started my cycle everything was good. Currently experiencing insomnia occasionally and night sweats. What is really annoying me is the loss of appetite I've had. I mean I can eat and by that I mean a ton of food every other hour. I would normally on cycle or not get hungry about an hour after I'd stuff my face. But after I eat not 5 mins go by where I have to rush to RR to ditch it out. Metabolism is naturally crazy fast!
To the point I'm wondering if maybe I'm running my test too low or if I should add another component to my cycle. Read a couple forums where guys have had loss of appetite and thrown some EQ to their cycle or dbol in some cases. Any tips thoughts or personal exp? Appreciate the help! Thanks!
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Richard.SimmonsDrop it. Don't even see why your running it ?? If it's eating you alive than drop it ! Why are you running it ?? How tall are you ? Being 191 with 13-14% BF isn't bad at all. I'm so over seening guys running to tren thinking it's the best thing in the world. I would much rather do a Deca,Sust,Primo "Use one or two"cycle any day of the week. Then add my other compounds to make me hardened up and lean out. Yea I can do all that with out Tren.
Hey little bro . Because you are 21 years old soon you will lose more than appetite . In the cycle logs you post a cycle and 100 guys told you that you too young . What the hell are you doing with your self ? You don't need supplements . You have it so high even . You will kill your self in this way .
As the others have told you, at your age you have all the time in the world yet. Do not risk your natural axis yet bro. Please stop and give it several years. Have a couple kids while you are at it first while everything still works.
I would come off everything you're on and start pct to try to save what you can of your natural status.
Then just train and eat like a horse and then there aren't so many variables that your trouble could be bro. Remember no aas talk or advice from members under 25) here which has been mentioned. Just do the smart thing and be safe and most of all healthy in your older years to come. Your young age it could be a number of things while what you are doing I'm not going to get in detail for sale of the rules and I don't know your body just your stats.
Estrogen and appitite are very closely related.
You haven't mentioned anything about anti estrogen meds. Learn to control your estro and you may learn to control your appetite.
BUT FIRST THINGS FIRST ....GET OFF THE GEAR !!!!!
This is a hot topic he is way too young to be on aas for sure the thing about it is they are gonna do it no matter what we say at those doses he ain't going back natty I don't care how high your natural test is it ain't as high as 500 mg of tren. That being said is it worse to not give advise or give advise to keep him from fucking hpta up or worse health issues good luck having kids too Don't add more aas not the answer aggressive pct for sure
Hey Blitz....at your age your natural testosterone production should be high. You shouldn't have any problems increasing size and strength naturally, with good diet and a training routine.
You are killing your natural testosterone production. I don't think you wanna be 25 years old pinning once a week for HRT. You have been cycling since 18 years old so im not sure what damage you have done.
At 18 your natural test would have been high. I would re-evaluate your life and think about your future.
I hope not too much if any.the most test I did was at a max of 450mgs/w. Which I cycled off of with pharmacy grade clomid & nolva. This has been the most T I've ever ran. Thanks for the advice @cltleo I'll be sure to look more into it. Get some blood work done and see where I'm at as far as health.
blood work is paramount when using aas.
Thanks for all the feed back guys! I do take into consideration everyone's advice, good or bad. I understand the rules of no aas help because of my age. Sorry about that. I guess I walked right into this roasting myself huh? lol knowledge is power so keep advice and personal thoughts coming. Thanks again!
RustyhookerAppreciate that you're at least honest. You manned up. Hope you get your learning straight.
Will do brother! Thank you.
My advice in this is that it's not about the anabolics you're running. How hard are you training ? How many days a week and for how long and intense? Hunger will come if you are working hard enough, trust me! If you are putting in plenty of lifting and still suffering from lack of appetite then add in cardio. Fasted cardio is great for appetite and then even add some post workout cardio. Sitting at 13-14 BF some cardio won't hurt you at all. Maybe 30 minutes couple times a day with heart rate at 130 would be a good start to turn on the hunger! Good luck bro.
I work a construction job 10-12 hours a day and hit the gym for about 2 hours after that. I do plenty of lifting usually heavy with occasional super sets towards the end of my workouts. I can say my cardio has been slacking, I will give fasted cardio a go and see how that works! I appreciate the feedback @Militia thank bro
RustyhookerMy advice in this is that it's not about the anabolics you're running
Really? Check his age?
I was not giving anabolic advice in any way !! It's not about anabolics AT ALL ... That better !???
Are you saying we can't even give diet or exercise advice to young guys.
You can't say that anabolic's don't play a large factor here. Tren can absolutely kill an appetite!! Along with causing sever acid reflux. But I think the major player here is the fact that tren reduces your body production of T3 & that in & of its self could lead to the lose of appetite. I know when I'm on T3 I get a sweet tooth like crazy & when the same thyroid levels are suppressed I'm not as interested in my peanut butter Ezekiel bread sandwiches. So I could see how the drugs could be effecting in this case. Also, insomnia & night sweats? Yeah, dudes going to need to man up if he's hell bent on destroying his endocrine system at such a early age!!
(& by no means am I advocating he do so)
& pay no attention to Rusty, he's been up & down the ranks so many times he feels obligated to attack sometimes
I have both currently, the acid heart burn type feel isn't so bad I went out an got some real papaya which I dislike the smell of & Some Prilosec if it's ever crazy enough. My appetite is still the same, although I felt like I could eat a bit more tonight than what I did a couple days back. May have been the 16 flights of stairs I had to go up and down of all day at work? Thanks for the feedback guys!
Ya youre 100% correct, its the tren, it murders my appetite every single time and always crashes my t3 levels, once I get those back on to normal my appetite goes back to normal. Im dealing with a sluggish thyroid right now from this medication I take and im just putting two and two together that it could be the reason Im not easily poundng 5000 calories a day like I used to be able to.
Sry, by posting anything other than this boy needs to do a reassessment on his life choices could be viewed as advice to the creator of this thread on the use of AAS. So before that happens, I'll edit the post that I can & repeat that eroids rules forbid giving advice to members under 25 years of age for these compounds.
RustyhookerWell said... +2. Probably worth a freebie too ;)
-1 for being a hypocrite.
So you shit on militia for not getting into steroid details and simply saying anabolics. Then you +2 max for going in depth on steroids reactions on this kids thread. Really?
RustyhookerIm sure you'll suck it for freebies. Scamper off to the source now.
You're a fucking joke.
RustyhookerIm sure your new cook will hook you up. Great work there
Knock it off Rusty. You jumped the gun on this one. Let it go.
RustyhookerSorry sir.
I've never used his gear. I am sick of your dumb ass. You parrot, you're a dick rider and straight up delusional.
Thanks brother!! Just trying to look at the chemical reaction that takes place in the body. By understanding that, we all can be safe in our decisions
RustyhookerExactly! Great job!
RustyhookerThen leave out the anabolics. Just post up food and gym. His problem is the anabolics mixed in with age.
That's why he's not hungry ??? Really!.?!?!
Fuck these god damn forums, I thought I would give them a try and come contribute to the site but I'm not playing this my dick is bigger bullshit. I'll be hanging out at my si page from now on like I have been just twirling my thumbs waiting to get verified.
RustyhookerMy advice in this it's not about the anabolics you're running
That statement screams YES do the anabolics. Figures a source up here pushing drugs. You somehow didn't know tren kills appetite? Damn stovetop brewers
"NOT ABOUT THE ANABOLICS"
Jesus Christ quit trying to twist my fucking words around to make something out of nothing!! Now all of a sudden I'm a god damn stovetop brewer... Riiiiight... Have a good day sir!
RustyhookerBye Felicia.
The only other thing you need to add to this cycle is Health Insurance ,because your gonna need it but seriously ,21 and on tren that's just crazy ,and that's a big dose for even a veteran , at 21 I could eat like a monster and grow,staying lean was easy ,you're at an age when your hormones are naturally at their peak ,like other members said rethink what your doing ,the risk that you are taking out weight the benifits at this age ,
If you continue this path you are a great risk of killing your natural production which will; require constant medical supervision and shots potentially the rest of your life, increase heart and cholesterol issues, snoring and polycythemia (Elevated Hematocrit and Hemaglobin) pain in the joints from gout from high RBD turnover as a result of said polycythemia, high blolod preasure and one more big one; No children!
Even the medical board does not sanction exogenous testosterone replacement for men under 26 because your thyroid, HPTA, LH and FSH have not fully developed and you are probably producing more natural hormone than you need right now.
Focus on the eating and training and be amazed at what your body can do by manipulating your diet and body naturally before you run cycles! Your 40 year old self will thank your 21 year old self one day!
Youre way to young, 21 years old and running trenbolone, argubly the harshest compound around, the hardest drug to recover from. I would abort cycle ASAP, run a little pct, and stay away from gear until your endocrine system is done developing, typically around age 25. Using before this puts you at very high risk for permenantly damaging it. And you dont wanna even know what the concequences of that are. But youre 21, you dont think of concequences, ignorant bliss. Thank god I was scared of gear at this age and thought id never touch it as id probably would have done the same stupid shit as you and fucked my self all up. Id be paying 10 bucks a pill at walmart for 100mg viagra every month just to get my dick hard these days. Take our advise, were trying to help you, come off cycle and leave thes powerful hormones alone for a few more years
That'll do it. It's not like you're overdoing at the moment eh?
Fella you're way too young to be using gear and you've already been at it three years. Eroids isn't going to contribute to you destroying your endocrine system so young.
we have a rule here no anabolic advice under 25. For multiple reasons , which I'm sure a few members will mention in depth here soon.
Started cycling at 18? 21 and on tren. My only advice would be to rethink your path. Life is long and you're risking quote a bit for looks....
Bingo.