HCG - coming off a LONG cycle
Hello All,
I am in my late 20s and have been running Test for a total of about 9 or 10 months. I have been lifting since I was 16. I am 5'11 and I weigh about 230 lbs at around 16% body fat. I have a 51' Chest, 18.5' Arms, 34' waist, 18' calves, don't remember much else. Anyways, during the cycle I did add Masteron and NPP back in the summer for about 12 weeks, but for the past 4 or 5 months its just been test. I was running about 500 to 750mgs per week and ran all sorts of esters. The most recent ester which I have been running for the past 6 weeks has been Sust. So I did not run any HCG or AIs during the cycle and I am finally coming off. A friend who gets his advice from an IFBB Pro (probably would recognize his name but not gonna say) recommended the following for PCT. By the way, I was using about 500 mgs/week of sust and my last dose was on Saturday - 6 days ago. So I will be starting this PCT program probably tomorrow - 7 days after my last shot unless you guys think otherwise. Please let me know what you all think. I am not an amateur and I know the long cycle was very irresponsible and counterproductive, so please no negative feedback unless it's constructive. THANK YOU ALL!
P.S. - below when I refer to "day 1" I mean day 8 off of Test or whenever I start the PCT....
HCG
1,000 IUs a day for days 1-10 (10,000 IUs in 10 days - I know that seems very high to what I am used to hearing)
Nolvadex
20 mgs days 1-10
10 mgs days 11-15
Clomid
100 mgs days 1-15
50 mgs days 16-30
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I would keep hcg at 500iu/day for 10 days and double your dose of Nolva. After such a long cycle you will be shut down hard. Read some posts in the pct area of the forum, you can also google "power PCT" I think by Dr.Scally. Some had success, I never tried it. I also remember a post not long ago from a member who successfully recovered from a long cycle. He used clomid/nolva and daa. I'll look for it and direct you. He might be willing to help you.
Awesome. I would love to get in touch with him. I will also check out "power PCT" from Dr. Scally.
Hi Jaywall,
That much proviron will keep you shut down buddy and that much hcg will have your estrogen all over the place. What's to say a normal pct won't work for you?? Do one and get bloods see were your at buddy
hello,
Long cycles are not good becuase they will turn off the testis.my suggestion is 3 * 5000 iu hcg , 50 * 50mgProvieron , 60 * 1000mg Tribulus and 40*50mg clomid and Liv 52.
1 hcg 5000 every 3 days(10 day after TestE injuktion)
Provieron 1 in the morning, 1 after workout
Tribulus 1 in the morning, 1 after workout
Clomid(start it with HCG) 2 in the evening for day1 to day10 and 1 in the evening day 10 to day 30
live 52 3 times everyday.
and if you wanna go to long cycle in future, you have to use every month 5000 hcg or use provieron.
i hope it was helpfull
Think long and hard before posting bullshit like this! If someone actually takes you seriously they are in for a fucking train wreck!!!!!
You should educate yourself in the pct area as well. Proviron is supresive, never use it in pct. Your whole pct is just wrong. We have thousands of posts in pct area of the forum.
proviron i supressive- will cause shut down- tribulus is for the bin its trash- maybe placebo affect if lucky.
hcg aromatises 5000? e3d come on mate.
where the nolva?
clomid dose?
come on mate if this poor fuck does your "protocol" hes fucked......................be real
This "poor fuck" is more educated than you think. I've just never stayed on cycle for so long so I don't know what I'm doing in terms of PCT. Yes I abused the test and stayed on for way too long bc I couldn't come off due to many factors that I can not post or explain. But I'm not taking that advice from the dude telling me to do 5,000 IUs of HCG at once and run proviron during PCT. I'm not stupid. Come on bro I asked for advice - not criticism. As I mentioned, I KNOW I fucked up, I have admitted it many times, yet people still feel the need to comment negatively. But seriously thanks for the advice and I'll make it out fine. Getting blood work done - have my HCG, Nolva, Clomid and Tadalafil for my girl's sake....
StevebNot if it's cold pressed and also if not suspended in alcohol. Tribulus terrestris AKA Horny Goat Weed works really well and is proven to do so. It's actually a really good supplement if you buy the right one.
Try it cold pressed and you will have random erections all day long.
Isn't Proviron technically an AAS? Very mild but it is a steroid which is androgenic but not very anabolic. I've heard of some people using proviron for bridging between cycles, but I thought it was frowned upon for a real, complete PCT - especially after such a long cycle.... But anyways, 5,000 IUs of HCG in one shot seems astronomically high. Are you suggesting that bc I have been on cycle for sooo long? Thank you for the advice - it definitely helped!
StevebYes Proviron is a steroid, Read what I posted here.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt/from-trt-to-natty-again
Thanks man! Most useful info I've read in a while....