posted Wed, 11/11/2015 - 19:56
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+ 1 Your favorite kickstarting oral steroid and why?
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I'll be starting a cycle in a couple months and I don't know which oral steroid I want to kick start with.
I'm looking at anadrol, M1T, turinabol, and winstrol...but most likely will run dbol again.
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Rustyhooker^^^^^leaves open options mid thru end for any changes. ;) right when things are booming.
I was thinking about that. No kickstart at all and when my test/eq kick in throw in dbol or m1t early-mid cycle, around the 4-6 week range.
I like that idea. I'm just a short ester guy. I like to be able to start & feel it quick, and if I need to come off or end a cycle early, boom... I'm pct'in in a few days
I like that idea too and most likely will get into the short cycles in the future. Especially with tren I would never do tren enanthate. But this time I'm gonna go with a 18 week high dosage test/eq cycle and really put some size on that I can keep with an extremely solid diet.
bigmurphI love dbol for bulking and plan on running tbol this time around but have been researching using just prop for the first 2wks and ending with var instead of a kick trying to end strong at the end of my cycle when my test is in full force never tried this but from my research it seems like a good idea look into this you might like what you read as i have wanted to add that I will be using test e at 500 for 15wks test propionate 100mg eod for first 2wks then last 8wks 50mg var i change my mind all the time until I pull the trigger and order but this is my plan now
I used Prop for kickstart for first time my current cycle. Will not be going back to orals. Test is king.
I love superdrol for a kickstart. Puts on a lot of solid lean gains fast and strength goes way up
Have you used M1T before? If so please elaborate.
bigurielI've used both, M1T gives better strength gains than superdrol, but it's worse on sides. I found them similar for size. You look better on SD, very full and vascular.
I would go for the SD.
Why not go with Test Prop.
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It's a solid idea mate. I prefer keeping pinning to a minimal though I just might do that.
I'd much rather pin than take an oral. Maybe I coddle my liver, but I know I can achieve my goals without the use of many orals. Proviron and maybe a dbol run every other year and I'm good.
It does increase pinning quantity by 100%.
Say you inject the long esters (which I am assuming you are running) E3D, and the prop would be pinning EOD, kick starting for 30 days.
You would pin 10 times during those 30 days were you to use an oral. But if you were to use an EOD pin technique, you would essentially be pinning 20 times during those 30 days.
While this may seem daunting, it would at the same time allow more stable blood levels in your system (4 hour half life of dbol vs. 2 days of prop).
You could also make the pinning painless by buying 23G 3CC needles, then buying 29G slin pins from the same brand. Draw with the 23G, pin with 29G. It makes a huge difference, believe me. When I used to pin with a 25G I much preferred minimal pinning. Once I stepped up to 29G, its a world of a difference - you don't feel the pins at all.
Nice explanation for pinning...
Just remember methylated orals need a liver supp...