It's a really strong oral. I felt lethargic as hell all the time till I hit the gym. Most noticeable was a massive strength increase and vascularity. Now comparing it to superdrol, while they both increase strength and mass tremendously, imo m1t felt as the superior strength compound while superdrol was better suited for aesthetics/ bodybuilding purposes. Watch your blood pressure and drink plenty of water whatever you decide to do and take your liver support. Research it heavily bro.
Well I put on over 3 stone running this for 16 months at 15mg when it was a 'supplement' and not much was known about it. Massive strength gains, dry grainy muscle. Strongest oral I've ever taken, i was lucky and didn't get liver issues, elevated but not dangerous....but....why do I know that? Because I went to the doctor and had full bloods and found had no testosterone and was told I would be unlikely to ever have children as follow up check ups showed not producing test to any degree. Slightly affected thyroid but that didn't require medication fortunately. After months of dragging myself to the gym to hit personal bests but feeling totally shit permanently and the thyroid issue which the doctor attributed to M1T means I suffer from insomnia which I take prescription meds for. Wouldn't touch it ever again. As noted below, there's orals that have years of research and have been used long term for medical reasons and the well documented effects on liver etc. I was lucky my liver was functioning so well but then I didn't drink (don't know either) or take painkillers etc.
It only managed to be sold as a supplement as had NO medicinal use so was never classified as a steroid until they clamped down on prosteroids.
It was the total lack of information mixed with my ego and the strength gains. I lived on caffeine tablets as I was always so tired, and everyone said it was the caffeine causing the insomnia. I had 5mg split 3 times a day. I was otherwise a total health nut, eating under 10% fat for meals except the odd cheat meal and drinking 8 pints of skimmed milk a day as protein powder never agreed with me. I just assumed I was that tired as training 6 days a week and working as well but lesson learnt. It's great we have these forums readily available now, but In all honesty M1T amongst other prohormones (designer steroids) had only magazine reviews. The labels did say only 4 or maybe it was up to 6 weeks but as you were buying legally off the shelf and I was young and had no access to any information so I thought I was basically natural. They said it was converted by your body into a steroid, and I admit I just looked at the up side not anything else. If you Google, nobody really started questioning it for a long time, and I was living in a town where they didn't have an internet cafe (as far as I knew), so really limited info. I wouldn't use it again. I managed to have a beautiful baby girl almost 2 years ago after years of telling girlfriends I couldn't have kids. If you run it, there's not much difference between 10mg a day and 15mg although people were running 50mg at my gym (apparently). Clone versions are sold in supplement stores, they are not the same as the original from guys I know who've had little success from the clones. If you really want to run it keep low dose, short term, liver support (I've always used NAC although liv 52 was all the rage back then) people say it's a wet compound, wasn't for me, everyone reacts differently. But the lethargy is something else. You literally feel half dead, go to train and you're amazing, and then you feel shit again. I'd take Anadrol or dbol over that any time. Best of luck with what you choose to do bro. I'm not proud of what I did, just glad it didn't kill me to be honest
Yeah I'm glad you're okay too dude. I totally understand the lack of info. I tried tons of prohormones at a young age and had no idea what I was doing. It was that tren shit from max muscle. Sold me that shit at around 16 and like you said all I saw was "gains" in magazines. It's good we can research to the extent we can now. Still people don't pay attention to the info that's readily available. We can only hope they do. Stay healthy bro.
I know! I was in my early 20's and it was just another supplement back then. It wasn't thought of as dangerous as it was before it's toxicity was heard of, and the internet was only in internet cafes so the information we had access to was adverts in the magazines owned by the supplement companies. Obviously a lot has happened in terms of our knowledge of M1T since 2001/2.
Also I want to say that I will not be taking M1T anymore because of the comment "i wouldnt bother when there is "pharma" orals that have been used for decades." Ups niglet.
its the rules mate, no stats no service, cycle history and stats before any info, do some research mate, its not hard to find, not on this forum because this is for proper steroids, not designer/ exoctic compounds.
there is multiple "brands" with the warning on bottle.
ive had them when i was sponsored on another forum years ago, i used to get tonnes of these crappy hormones sent for free for testing, m1t, superdrol, hdrol, mdrol, m14, epi everything, i was the one who wrote superdrol the how too, which is deleted now and has been copied and worded differently called superdrol for dummies, but had over 70,000 views.
this product is know by the stat of- such and such- to cause congenital birth defect, right on back on label, shit even the cycle assist products have the same warning.
Trust me dude I did research hardcore to try and find that link about defects and m1t but didn't find it. I'll keep looking but to be honest I'm just interested in the compound. I won't be running it as I've already had success with dbol. Even that I might not use. I just might kickstart with prop and call it a day. Also I don't want a source or any of that shit just a pic of the label so I can laugh at the manufacturer for losing money. That's like a Big Mac coming with a warning that it causes cancer aha
just do a bit of research mate, in the uk they still sell it over the counter, same with superdrol etc etc, on the m1t bottle, it has a warning- this product is known to cause congenital birth defects.
The M1T etc you can get in the UK, not in any shops I've seen but online, are clones (where the compound's chemical structure has been slightly altered (attach molecule and rename) so by law technically not the same compound, hence why they can sell) have pretty much similar negative side effects I've mentioned before but not all the benefits according to several guys I know who have run them, but can't confirm as so many factors can affect ie training and diet. I had recently one friend run a clone for a month at 20mg a day and he just felt tired and demotivated, but could just have been his reaction. Unfortunately no medical studies have really been done to show effects as never used medically) Only link to birth defects i can find is possible decrease in sperm mobility but that's a fertility issue, can't find anything about it causing birth defects apart from being in the same topic thread as Accutane as the user was suffering bad acne. Wish I could help you with a link but Google hasn't got one. And my baby is perfect according to my GP
On top of it you used it for 16 weeks or months I thought I read and your kids healthy. That's the only proof I have that it doesn't do such things. So far I have none to say it does. Ups brother.
I'm glad you're in good health for the most part and your kid. Steroids can cause health issues, this I know. Especially if used carelessly but for people to claim congenital birth defects...that's a whole 'nother thing.
That's basically stating its a DNA altering substance. Why would M1T differentiate DNA when all other anabolic steroid compounds don't. When people make such claims I need proof or its ignored.
i didnt read it..... its just a list that popped up from a 2 sec google search, simply thought there may have been a link on that page that could clarify.
i should have added when i left the link that was all i could find regarding...... i know nothing about it either to be honest, something i have never used so never researched deeply .
I wasnt impressed when i ran it, but i also ran it at the end of a cycle after already being on for 10 weeks or so so my receptors were probably alread saturated and such. All i remember is being lethargic, Dont recall any impressive strength gains or much size and i would if it produced that. I ran 20mgs ed. Maybe it was underdosed idk. I try and stay away from those designer orals now and stick with the stuff thats been used for decades, and even those i dont really run anymore because they all kill my appetite. Id stick with dbol or anadrol and stay away from that poison. With any oral you need to run TUDCA with it, no other liver supp with actually prevent damage, they only help repair while TUDCA actually will help protect. idk if it will help against M1T though its very toxic.
I believe Methyltren is stronger but I don't see a reason for them, Dbol has always done me well with its sense of well being and good pumps. Do your research and find out whats best for YOU and your goals. Take some liv-52 DS with it as well and you'll be A OK
Very toxic but very effective. I've used it at 15-20mg.
Pros: Very fast strength gains, very androgenic, lifts going up and body fat going down within the week, good size gains and surprisingly dry (everyone says it's wet but it wasn't for me). Sex drive increased.
Cons: High blood pressure, oily skin, feel extremely lethargic and often outright sick, very bad heartburn, joint pain, back pumps, bad sleep. I don't get hair loss but I bet if you're prone it'll shed you bald in no time.
It's a really strong oral. I felt lethargic as hell all the time till I hit the gym. Most noticeable was a massive strength increase and vascularity. Now comparing it to superdrol, while they both increase strength and mass tremendously, imo m1t felt as the superior strength compound while superdrol was better suited for aesthetics/ bodybuilding purposes. Watch your blood pressure and drink plenty of water whatever you decide to do and take your liver support. Research it heavily bro.
Well I put on over 3 stone running this for 16 months at 15mg when it was a 'supplement' and not much was known about it. Massive strength gains, dry grainy muscle. Strongest oral I've ever taken, i was lucky and didn't get liver issues, elevated but not dangerous....but....why do I know that? Because I went to the doctor and had full bloods and found had no testosterone and was told I would be unlikely to ever have children as follow up check ups showed not producing test to any degree. Slightly affected thyroid but that didn't require medication fortunately. After months of dragging myself to the gym to hit personal bests but feeling totally shit permanently and the thyroid issue which the doctor attributed to M1T means I suffer from insomnia which I take prescription meds for. Wouldn't touch it ever again. As noted below, there's orals that have years of research and have been used long term for medical reasons and the well documented effects on liver etc. I was lucky my liver was functioning so well but then I didn't drink (don't know either) or take painkillers etc.
It only managed to be sold as a supplement as had NO medicinal use so was never classified as a steroid until they clamped down on prosteroids.
Yeah that long of M1T I'm glad you're alive people say 4 weeks and they can barely take it any longer
It was the total lack of information mixed with my ego and the strength gains. I lived on caffeine tablets as I was always so tired, and everyone said it was the caffeine causing the insomnia. I had 5mg split 3 times a day. I was otherwise a total health nut, eating under 10% fat for meals except the odd cheat meal and drinking 8 pints of skimmed milk a day as protein powder never agreed with me. I just assumed I was that tired as training 6 days a week and working as well but lesson learnt. It's great we have these forums readily available now, but In all honesty M1T amongst other prohormones (designer steroids) had only magazine reviews. The labels did say only 4 or maybe it was up to 6 weeks but as you were buying legally off the shelf and I was young and had no access to any information so I thought I was basically natural. They said it was converted by your body into a steroid, and I admit I just looked at the up side not anything else. If you Google, nobody really started questioning it for a long time, and I was living in a town where they didn't have an internet cafe (as far as I knew), so really limited info. I wouldn't use it again. I managed to have a beautiful baby girl almost 2 years ago after years of telling girlfriends I couldn't have kids. If you run it, there's not much difference between 10mg a day and 15mg although people were running 50mg at my gym (apparently). Clone versions are sold in supplement stores, they are not the same as the original from guys I know who've had little success from the clones. If you really want to run it keep low dose, short term, liver support (I've always used NAC although liv 52 was all the rage back then) people say it's a wet compound, wasn't for me, everyone reacts differently. But the lethargy is something else. You literally feel half dead, go to train and you're amazing, and then you feel shit again. I'd take Anadrol or dbol over that any time. Best of luck with what you choose to do bro. I'm not proud of what I did, just glad it didn't kill me to be honest
Yeah I'm glad you're okay too dude. I totally understand the lack of info. I tried tons of prohormones at a young age and had no idea what I was doing. It was that tren shit from max muscle. Sold me that shit at around 16 and like you said all I saw was "gains" in magazines. It's good we can research to the extent we can now. Still people don't pay attention to the info that's readily available. We can only hope they do. Stay healthy bro.
16 months on M1T is insanity!!! 3-4 weeks with some additional TEST is the ONLY way that I would ever run it.
I know! I was in my early 20's and it was just another supplement back then. It wasn't thought of as dangerous as it was before it's toxicity was heard of, and the internet was only in internet cafes so the information we had access to was adverts in the magazines owned by the supplement companies. Obviously a lot has happened in terms of our knowledge of M1T since 2001/2.
AMAZING strength and size quickly on rather small dosages 5-10mg.
Keep the run 3-4 weeks and run it alone side some testosterone for best
results.
Yeah I'd definitely keep it to 5mg if I were to use it. Thanks A
mattyjGave me bad headaches and a lot of bloat. Wouldn't recommend taking strong orals like that. Would be better to just inject test
Stats
Age: 28
Height: 6'1
Weight: 185
BF: 9%
i compare it to winstrol.
made me vascular and grainy, strength went up, toxic as hell, gave me insane pump.
it is one of few compounds that cause congenital birth defects.
i wouldnt bother when there is "pharma" orals that have been used for decades.
its not what you read mate, dont get sucked into the hype, your not gonna get 35 pounds as they advertise lol.
Also I want to say that I will not be taking M1T anymore because of the comment "i wouldnt bother when there is "pharma" orals that have been used for decades." Ups niglet.
What's up with posting my stats lol? Also where did you get congenital birth defects from? I'd love to see that reference
its the rules mate, no stats no service, cycle history and stats before any info, do some research mate, its not hard to find, not on this forum because this is for proper steroids, not designer/ exoctic compounds.
there is multiple "brands" with the warning on bottle.
ive had them when i was sponsored on another forum years ago, i used to get tonnes of these crappy hormones sent for free for testing, m1t, superdrol, hdrol, mdrol, m14, epi everything, i was the one who wrote superdrol the how too, which is deleted now and has been copied and worded differently called superdrol for dummies, but had over 70,000 views.
this product is know by the stat of- such and such- to cause congenital birth defect, right on back on label, shit even the cycle assist products have the same warning.
ps- plus 2 for the comment above about pharma.
Trust me dude I did research hardcore to try and find that link about defects and m1t but didn't find it. I'll keep looking but to be honest I'm just interested in the compound. I won't be running it as I've already had success with dbol. Even that I might not use. I just might kickstart with prop and call it a day. Also I don't want a source or any of that shit just a pic of the label so I can laugh at the manufacturer for losing money. That's like a Big Mac coming with a warning that it causes cancer aha
https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=m1t+and+congenital+birth+defects&...
That's a hair dysplasia disorder or Trichothiodystrophy study that has nothing to do with the steroid M1T or any steroids at all.
Also in gene mutation m1t is not referring to a steroid but a mutation in the SPINK1 gene or serine peptidase inhibitor, kazal Type 1
just do a bit of research mate, in the uk they still sell it over the counter, same with superdrol etc etc, on the m1t bottle, it has a warning- this product is known to cause congenital birth defects.
I'd love to see that. Since you've done your research maybe you could link this bottle with the skull and bones on it?
The M1T etc you can get in the UK, not in any shops I've seen but online, are clones (where the compound's chemical structure has been slightly altered (attach molecule and rename) so by law technically not the same compound, hence why they can sell) have pretty much similar negative side effects I've mentioned before but not all the benefits according to several guys I know who have run them, but can't confirm as so many factors can affect ie training and diet. I had recently one friend run a clone for a month at 20mg a day and he just felt tired and demotivated, but could just have been his reaction. Unfortunately no medical studies have really been done to show effects as never used medically) Only link to birth defects i can find is possible decrease in sperm mobility but that's a fertility issue, can't find anything about it causing birth defects apart from being in the same topic thread as Accutane as the user was suffering bad acne. Wish I could help you with a link but Google hasn't got one. And my baby is perfect according to my GP
On top of it you used it for 16 weeks or months I thought I read and your kids healthy. That's the only proof I have that it doesn't do such things. So far I have none to say it does. Ups brother.
I'm glad you're in good health for the most part and your kid. Steroids can cause health issues, this I know. Especially if used carelessly but for people to claim congenital birth defects...that's a whole 'nother thing.
That's basically stating its a DNA altering substance. Why would M1T differentiate DNA when all other anabolic steroid compounds don't. When people make such claims I need proof or its ignored.
i didnt read it..... its just a list that popped up from a 2 sec google search, simply thought there may have been a link on that page that could clarify.
i should have added when i left the link that was all i could find regarding...... i know nothing about it either to be honest, something i have never used so never researched deeply .
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I wasnt impressed when i ran it, but i also ran it at the end of a cycle after already being on for 10 weeks or so so my receptors were probably alread saturated and such. All i remember is being lethargic, Dont recall any impressive strength gains or much size and i would if it produced that. I ran 20mgs ed. Maybe it was underdosed idk. I try and stay away from those designer orals now and stick with the stuff thats been used for decades, and even those i dont really run anymore because they all kill my appetite. Id stick with dbol or anadrol and stay away from that poison. With any oral you need to run TUDCA with it, no other liver supp with actually prevent damage, they only help repair while TUDCA actually will help protect. idk if it will help against M1T though its very toxic.
bbopI believe Methyltren is stronger but I don't see a reason for them, Dbol has always done me well with its sense of well being and good pumps. Do your research and find out whats best for YOU and your goals. Take some liv-52 DS with it as well and you'll be A OK
Very toxic but very effective. I've used it at 15-20mg.
Pros: Very fast strength gains, very androgenic, lifts going up and body fat going down within the week, good size gains and surprisingly dry (everyone says it's wet but it wasn't for me). Sex drive increased.
Cons: High blood pressure, oily skin, feel extremely lethargic and often outright sick, very bad heartburn, joint pain, back pumps, bad sleep. I don't get hair loss but I bet if you're prone it'll shed you bald in no time.
Probably won't use it again.