posted Mon, 10/05/2015 - 00:18
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Winter bulking stack
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Hi guys I've run a few of these cycles in the past with great results and would love to have any input from the more experienced guys on how to tweak and get the most out of this cycle.
Anabol 50mg taken 3 x daily for first 4 weeks.
Tren Ace 150mg Eod for 8 weeks
Sust 250mg Eod for 10 weeks
Adex taken Eod throughout cycle.
Then onto PCT.
I'm not a fan of Deca so this isn't an option for bulking.
Appreciate any input guys.
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Ricky BarnettThanks for the feedback brothers
for a winter bulker there is nothing that can beat test/deca/anadrol with massive amounts of food when were taking purely aas.
deca isnt an option but tren is? thats weird.
i see your keeping your cycle duration short, so eq is out of the question- at week 12 your appetite really is a fkn beast.
fuck the tren ace, just go with your sust and run your anabol at 50mgs a day for 6 weeks, make sure you use all your ancillaries especially liver cars whilst on the oral, if your going for pure mass/weigh/ bulk, sust and dbol will get the job done with a heap of food and hard/heavy lifting.
Agreed............... +3
Ricky BarnettCheers for your input brother. After lots of advice and thinking ive gone with the following.
Bold Cyp 800mg per week for 12 weeks
Test E 500mg per week for 14 weeks
50mg Proviron everyday for 14 weeks
200mg Test prop shot EOD for the first 4 weeks
PCT will consist of Nolva and Clomid for 4 weeks after last shot of Test.
Decided to drop Tren due to appetite suppression and its harshness on the body.
Also Dropped Anadrol as I've been told that after 4 weeks on Drol your receptors will be fried and you will not make much progression after this.
What is your input on the above as I'm always open to tweaks and advice.
looks ok, not my style but everyone likes different, seems like a hassle if you ask me for a bulk.
bulks should be big, bold, simple.
imo fuck the prop kickers and tapers.
i dont agree with the anadrol comment, depends how you use it, 4 weeks is a myth. 6 weeks maybe and thats for the dudes that get it and smash it straight away from the start @ 150mgs a day etc, i either pulse or taper up.
tren and appetite supression? again everyones different, ive never been hungrier than my recent tren ace run, literally waking up in night time stomach rumbling.
you extended the weeks, cycle got long, i would have the bold cyp at 14 weeks if length isnt an issue.
proviron for 14 weeks? fuck that, its mild yes but its a dht, your prostate will suffer, so will liver and kidneys if not careful.
again just my opinion, everyone is different good luck.
That's a lot of Anadrol! Have you ever considered NPP instead of deca? Its a faster acting nandrolone. It will still shut you down hard but works well with the short esters of sust or as mentioned below boldenone would be a great choice to. Just my .02..
Ricky BarnettThat's some sound advice I appreciate that fella.
I'll prob drop the Anadrol too then and go with a prop kicker.
I'm currently weighing 20st at around 14% bf so want to keep this bulk quite clean so will avoid any avoidable water gains.
Can you give your input for dosing for these compounds.
I was thinking
Test Prop 100mg EOD for first 4 weeks.
Sust 250mg EOD for 12 weeks
Bold Cyp 250mg EOD for 10 weeks
Adex EOD throughout
PCT
Nolva and clomid
For four weeks after last Sust shot?
Ricky BarnettI've ran this cycle before 3 times and gained well but I'm hearing you on the whole appetite thing. Damn it was hard to get them Calories in. I've run the classic Sus and Deca cycle a few times also but suffer bad with water retention, Deca Dick and sore nips with Deca.
Will be running HCG throughout cycle 500iu twice weekly.
Will run Clomid and Adex for 4 weeks after cycle.
Bloods all in order as of last week.
I've not purchased these compounds yet so I'm open to an alternative stack as like you said Tren hits the appetite.
Would dropping the Tren for EQ sound better.
Did you run caber with the deca? What was your test dose and deca dose? Many needs to run their test at double the dose of their deca to avoic the dreaded deca dick as well as caber or prami to keep prolactin levels down ( deca and tren both raise prolactin which is the usual culprit of Ed issues). Deca will make you hold some water but if your diet is spot on and you're drinking enough water as well as controlling estrogen you should be able to stay pretty dry on that stack. But you seemed turned off by it.
My suggestion would be sust/bold cyp. It's like eq but with the cyponiate ester so it only takes a few weeks to kickin unlike eq which takes 8-10 weeks for people to really feel it. I ran bold cyp this summer and I felt it kick in hard around week 3. lean gains no water, dry hard vascular look, increased appetite. I ran it for 10 week but would have loved to go 12 tho that would have been perfect but I didn't have enough.But no water at all I didn't drop a pound after the cycle. probably my favorite cycle to date. Everything I gained was solid muscle I wasn't holding a bunch of water like on deca and high test. No side effects either, no ed problems etc. I ran 500mg of test with 750mg of bold cyp and 50mg proviron. All around great cycle for adding pure lean tissue without the added water.
And your pct is off, you need to add nolva and you can't use adex during pct, if you want to run an ai durIng pct it has to be aromasin.
Not to mention this cycle will be a hell of a lot easier to recover from then running tren.
Edit: I didn't see you mentioned eq, you could go that route but the cycle will have to be a lot longer as eq takes a long time to kick in. That's why I suggested the cyp as you're plan was for 10 week, with eq you would have to really almost double that. But with bold cyp you could run a 12 weeker and get great results. Hell with only 10 weeks I added about 15lbs solid ( some muscle memory was involved).
Ricky BarnettJust wanted to let you know I now have the required compounds you mentioned and I have started to run them at the doses recommended by yourself.
Thanks for the advice and I will let you know how I get on.
Ricky BarnettCan't track down any bold cyp anywhere in the UK is another ester an option?
We need some more info on your previous cycles, how many have you ran, what compounds, have you had bloodwork done recently to see if everything's in order?
First thing, 50mg anabol 3 times a day? 150mgs of dbol Ed? Or do you mean 50mg split throughout the day? Next, have you ran tren before? It's probably the last drug I would ever include on a bulk due to the fact it murders my appetite. This side effect is somewhat common. Successful bulks are done eating the right amount of the right kinds of food, it's usually a large amount to stomach, along with proper training and rest. So if it was me I would not be able to eat enough food to build muscle so failed bulk. That's one thing to keep in mind and if you've ran it before and didn't have this problem disregard my experiences with tren. We all react different.
What's your pct and when do you plan to start it with regards to you're last shot of sust?