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Ok here's the deal. Student loans suck really bad.

I feel the need to post because my gf took out about 50k in loans and got her bachelors in exercise science geared more towards personal training/ health and wellness. right now she's getting paid 10$ an hour. And yeah nobody needs a bachelors degree to do anything training related so it was all essentially a waste. Gpa was 2.9ish.

I've been asking her about what she wants to do with her career and from the responses I'm getting I can tell she feels trapped. She spoke about maybe wanting to do nursing, dental hygiene, or dietetics... But she feels like she doesn't have the option to borrow more money to change fields.

What can she do with her career? I don't want her to feel locked in with zero option, and I want her to realize she has control to make her life better. Is there any advise I can pass along as a supportive boyfriend? I'm really trying to be encouraging.

KK9111's picture

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irongame427's picture

Can't reslly help with youre question but I have a friend, fellow eroider who can make those student loans almost disappear, or at the very least significantly decrease them assuming they're the right type of loans and some other factors. His company has helped two of my friends so far. I'll direct him to this thread and see if he can atleast help her out with that part.

manbearpig's picture

That would be very helpful bro! I'm sure she would appreciate it

Dragon992's picture

This thead is personally relevant to me. My bachelor's was also in exercise science, I'm just lucky I had rich parents to pay for everything. I found the same disenchantment, that exact same feeling of being trapped in a 10-15$/hr range. I also felt that as a trainer I wasn't making a big enough impact on people lIves because I was living in an area where people are fat and don't care about exercise.

I had a 3.23 GPA, and also took really soft classes in undergrad. When I went to apply for a masters degree program, I got 9 out 10 rejections, and one conditional acceptance that required taking 12 credit hours of necessary pre-requisites over the one summer before entering the program. My plan at that point was to continue and get a PhD, teach at a university, but again the disenchantment. I realized the earning potential was limited, and I would have to beg (grant writing, finding research funding) for money to keep my job.

Now I'm working towards what i always wanted to do but wasnt mature enough to work for- becoming a doctor. I'm in a post-baccalaureate program for pre-health: what I'm taking in this program will satisfy the requirements for MD, DPT, vet school, nursing school, etc. I'm in this program because A) my grades weren't great in undergrad and B) I never took the hard classes.

My parents cut me off after undergrad, and I was lucky enough to get an assistantship in grad school, but now I'm paying roughly 50k/yr in out of state tuition, and my significant other just got her law degree and has about 120k in debt, and can't get a job practicing law because we had to move out of state from where she took the bar exam. We are currently living on savings, federal loan money, scraps of hope, and my undying determination to fulfill a lifelong dream.

My advice is to go for more school, yes more debt, but more lifetime earning potential. There are non-degree seeking programs at colleges all over the country, and she really just needs to figure out which health profession, take the necessary pre-requisites, and work harder on studying/schoolwork than ever before. These programs are often flexible and will help you design a curriculum specific to the schools you want to apply for. If she treats her school like a 60 hr/wk job, she'll get great grades and get into the professional school she wants.

If you want to FR/pm me, please feel free, because I have a lot more to say about all this and I don't want to hijack the thread.

manbearpig's picture

Thanks for the response bro. I think a lot of us here on eroids put too much emphasis on fitness in our lives. I mean it's great for sake of accomplishment and enjoyment, but it's hard to live comfortably working at a gym. I bet it wasn't the career my gf thought it would be. I am very passionate about fitness myself but I've had to tone it down for the time being to focus on finishing up my degree. I mean after all, going to the gym everyday isn't going to pay my bills.

It really does take time for some people to start looking ahead at their life (career, goals, choices, finances). We see a lot of those people under 25 looking like twigs and on super stacks. Lmao.

b4ngbr0's picture

This happens more often than you'd think bro. My wife and I met studying bio and we both went on to bio fields. Things can get pretty shaky depending on which branch you want to apply yourself to. She had some doubts on where she was going with her career and decided to go into pharmacy from the bottom. She spent more money on loans only to be making not even half as much as she was before. She was thinking becoming a pharmacist. She now has scratched that idea, and is going back to her field.

We also thought of doing PA/NP, but alot of the schools required hands on, and she was against doing CNA work, thus we decided that wasn't for her.

What I'm trying to get at here is, and not trying to jack your thread, let her do whatever makes her happy. Money counts for something, it ain't everything. But best bet, would be to work somewhere that offers tuition reimbursement so you're not stuck with more student loans.

Sometimes it takes people a lil while to figure out what they wanna do. Sometimes they just need a lil push in the right direction. Either way, have her go for it, and in worse case, at least she tried. Good luck.

manbearpig's picture

Yep I hear you. What she does with her future is up to her. I'll try and help her make good choices tho. It's not hard to tell that the job she has now won't lead to any opportunities

Kobra's picture

Heyoooo. I've been in healthcare for a long while now, and the job potential is endless. Baby boomers are getting ready to retire = roughly a 40% increase in healthcare jobs by 2025. 50k in loans is relatively low coming out of school, but that's assuming you're compensated well. With her degree, she has several options to begin the next path. If she is truly scared about taking out more loans, have her look into becoming a PTA, which should only take another 12-18 months. In CA, they're compensated at roughly 75k/year and can work per-diem and make bank. RN and NP are also great fields, although RN has been tough to get a new grad position, whereas NP will take longer and has nearly unlimited potential. I'm a DPT, who came out of grad school with 200k in debt, so I feel her pain. It's been pretty easy to pay back loans and there are so many options to reduce payments or even have loans forgiven. Encourage her to start early. She can work part time as a trainer while going back to school. School sucks , but so worth it. Best of luck!

manbearpig's picture

Thanks for your input! physical therapy is another area she would probably like. Although her gpa needs a little work and I think her exercise science program lacked a lot of core science classes.

shawn0712's picture

Physical therapy is cool , but if you start out as a pta, that's really as far as you go. Don't get me wrong, you advance, but if you later decide to move into a physical therapist position, none of your education applies, and you're taking your doctorate from the beginning.
I really liked PTA. But I went through all of it to find out I can't stand being in one place for too long, and fluorescent lights suck.
Between nursing and PTA, you have more opportunities as a nurse honestly. The education required, the knowledge, and the costs involved are equal.

manbearpig's picture

Gotcha makes sense thanks for the input bro

MedDx's picture

Awesome post. I love to see us guys helping out our women(s)... not a bad idea what rusty said...most of her credits should help too...there are some rehab hospitals that she may be able to get in to, which might pay a little more, and help offset any doldrums with her current line of work. There is hope!!

manbearpig's picture

Thanks man. That's true. my uncle works at a good rehab hospital.

rt061309's picture

Ah the struggles of a college student. I agree with Rusty on this one. Healthcare is the way to go. It would probably only require another year or so of school. Student loans sound terrible. Im glad I enlisted in the military out of high school to avoid all the debt that comes from a college education.

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manbearpig's picture

Yeah man. I here that. I have two siblings who got the ROTC scholarship. That's a fuckin solid way to start a career

rt061309's picture

Well it can still be an option for your girl. She could go with reserves/national guard so she could continue school and stay close to home. That shit looks amazing on a resume too. The fitness industry is great but it seems like it is tough to make a lot of money.

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manbearpig's picture

Cool I'll mention it. She doesn't seem like a military type, but I know a few people who are in the National Guard. One still taking classes.

jd2014's picture

It's kinda scary that someone with little to no medical clinical experience can jump straight into NP school. I've worked with lots of brand new NP's that didn't know shit outta school and would come ask some RN's what they thought about "xyz" to write their orders.

manbearpig's picture

Ok so she gets a bachelors in bio and then an advanced degree in nursing school then?

She already has a degree in exercise science. But she did not choose to go with the clinical exercise science curriculum. She went with the easy, few science class program basically for trainers. Had classes like psych and a whole bunch of other useless classes

manbearpig's picture

She's definitely got potential to do great things, so I want her to realize she doesn't have to work hard for pocket change the rest of her life.