+ 1 Liraglutide and Somatropin
I spent the past few days researching Victoza aka Liraglutide. Mostly it's interactions with Somatropin aka norditropin aka HGH.
On the drug check site I just got basic info. So I dug deep. I found a few things interesting about both substance.
For example HGH could raise blood sugar, and be very problematic for people with undiagnosed impaired glucose tolerance and overt diabetic mellitus.
Note on diabetic mellitus, it's like a vien in your eye that hgh poors blood into and makes you see black dots. It's perminant and can make you blind.
Hgh can decrease insulin sensitivity. Your more at risk if you have a family history with diabetic mellitus, Turner syndrome. Diabetic retinopathy or sleep apnea..
I'm not trashing HGH it's well known of its benifits. Which we all know. But my research has mostly to do with blood glucose and its interaction with Liraglitide.
I did stubble across something interesting some people might want to know. For example hgh lowers LDL. I also learned that HGH is good at room temperature under 77F for upto 3 weeks with out refrigeration. So if you don't refrigerate the somatropin you actually only loose a weeks of its potency life.
On liraglutide aka victoza aka GLP-1
It's used for people with type 2 diabetes or pre diabetics (like me) who diet and exercise won't reduce the A1c and glucose level, also known as insulin resistance.
Glp1 increases the bodies production of insulin when needed and decrease glucagon release gastric emptying and food intake. glk is produced by our bodies but it's broken down fast by peptidase. Victoza is altered to be able to give a half life of 13 hours instead of 5-10mins naturally. It protein binding 98% albumin bound.
So with all that said victoza and Norditropin have a small drug interaction. It's should be odviouse after reading everything I wrote on the two.
Victoza lower blood sugar aka glucose and produce insulin when needed. Norditropin can increase blood sugar. So in essence Somatropin may or may not decrease the hypoglycemic effects of liraglutide aka victoza.
My main purpose is to learn about them for my future cycle which I plan on running. I asked a few guy on this site on thier experience with hgh and glucose effects etc but never got a response.
I came across a vedio were thier was a studie done by a university and they came to the conclusion that they both can be used at the same time just not injected in the same stop were the fluids would mix.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02658511
http://www.google.com/patents/US7141547
http://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00052
http://stueckpharmacy.com/primarycare/pdf/2011_victoza.pdf
I'm thinking of adding Mast E at 100mg pw to my current TRT test cyp of 150mg pw for two months, continue Victoza at 1.8mg PD and anastrozole at .25mg M/T.
Around February I want to add Somatropin at 2iu for a few weeks and work my way up to 4iu. I want to stay on it for a while for the health benifits that come with hgh.
Any advice, opinions are welcomed.
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HomerGread read , thx for sharing it!
Your welcome bro
This was very interesting, good work. How did it turn out ?
Pretty well. I gained 12lbs of sold muscle and lost around 4 lbs of fat. It was a nice run, I felt grate on it. I hustled hated all the pinning.
But if victoza was cheaper it's an excellent substance to add. I ran it for 10 months.
Thanks for the tip man.