HCG Advise
Hey guys ! back again ..
So I'm leaning out super well. My weights at 195 still but I'm noticeably leaner so I think I'm gaining some muscle off the higher amounts of protein to try and prevent muscle wasting from high T3
Someone told me that I could have my balls off for so long that they could become permanently messed up and small past the point of HCG being relevant. Advised if I'm going to be on I should consider running a small dose of twice weekly HCG to keep my balls healthy, and that even if I was so run a year cycle I should keep them active for this duration. I know you guys will immediately say cycle on and off, again I agree, but, assuming one was to run a 6 month test & deca cycle following a 5 month test / EQ cycle, would this be a good idea to incorporate HCG on a regular weekly basis?
Hope everyone is well and thank again for all your help, I wouldn't have made it this far without you guys lol ..
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I tried to subtlety imply this to you in your thread with the T3 usage, so now I'll tell it a little more directly. You're being cavalier and irresponsible. Your body, so do what you want to do but this community isn't going to waste time guiding you when you start suggesting stuff like this. You are on a path leading one way - an utter endocrine mess.
Longdave555I'm having a hard time seeing the relevance to taking a month off to let my natural test levels re set just to shut them down for another 6 months straight. Why not use HCG to keep them healthy while on and continue to grow .. ?!
You did hint this yes lol
This is your entire problem here...
Longdave555Okay so a month off my guys re boot, test levels are super low and natural, then 4-6 weeks later they are off again for 6 months, I'm not understanding the why it's super relevant ... ?
If you agree with cycling on and off...as you state, why would you be asking about an 11 month cycle?
Longdave555For most people it's fun to run 12 weeks on and 12 weeks off. I want to grow steady for 6 months straight and then cruise. I don't see the relevance to taking a month off to PCT to shut down again for 6 months straight is my thought process.
It seems you have made your decision. Do you compete, or have aspirations to compete at a professional level, or are you taking aas for personal gains?
If this is merely personal gains you are making bad decisions. Professionals stay on year round because it is their paycheck...so understand, but I just dont get why the everyday gym goer wants to embark on 12 month cyles at 26 yrs old. Good luck to you, and I hope you understand the risks you take.
Longdave555I could certainly see myself competing in a 225lb class once I grow to a lean 240. I don't have any immediate plans to compete in the lower weight classes. It's more about personal goals & aesthetics for me.
The reason I want to run a 12 month cycle is because I plan to be on more time then I'm off. I'm certainly aware of the risks and because of you guys I know specifics as far as bloods and concerns from real life experience. I can't thank you all enough for taking the time to help me.
Hmmmm....what do we tell you...???
What are the dosages of all the steroids in the cycle?
Longdave555You guys tell me the same thing every time .. lol
Proposed cycle doses following 2 months on just 500mg test to finish cutting would be:
1250mg test
600mg deca
caber
aromasin
hcg
All weekly dosing, I would be doing a single 2.5ml injection of 625mg test / 300mg deca twice a week, in each glute. Aromasin dose based on what I take at 600mg test would be 24mg daily, starting at 12.5 which is what I do now and seeing if I need more. Caber dosed at .5mg E3-4D. HCG twice weekly along with the anabolic injections at a guessed 250-500iu for the duration of the cycle. After this would consider a month off all with a PCT followed by the same cycle again continuing to grow slowly tapering calories up
TE 750mg and Provi 50mg/d would be more ideal. No 19-nor. AI 12.5mg eod. If u just have to do this. You could even consider a lower dose of test and provi, too. Then, practice site rotation. Cuz it sounds like ur chances of recovery, if thats what u want, are slim.
RustyhookerStats and priors? Looks like you have no idea whatsoever. .....
Longdave555Currently 5'6 3/4" lol
194lbs
16% BF
26 years old
First cycle was 500mg test for 14 weeks with aromasin and a PCT of 4-6 weeks followed by 2 additional months off
Second cycle and my current has been 14 weeks so far of 600mg/600mg test e / eq + aromasin
RustyhookerThe guys have advised you do proper time on...time off. 2 months off isn't enough.
You're asking for permission to blast and cruise. Noone will sign off on that.
Longdave555I like how you say that, it's just good advise and even though I'm probably going to stray from this, I appreciate you taking time to say the right thing, this is why I come here
You will wish u took some breaks in a couple years.
Lets turn this into an hCG 101 class...lmfao!!!
Longdave555The idea of taking a month off to then have to wait while anabolics reach their peak seems pointless, makes more sense if I was doing time on / off, so I think using HCG to maintain function is a better idea then keeping them on for a month then off for 6
I believe hCG loses some of its efficacy during long term use and/or our body builds a tolerance to it. I believe thats why it has a variety if dosing regimens and frequencies...
Longdave555Awesome, so the general scope of this would be alternating doses and frequencies over 6 months followed by a low test cruise or actual off period
What do you think of the proposed cycle doses ?
I would have to see a plan drawn up...std 6-8 wk low dose (250iu x 2/wk) if 19-nor involved for min 13 wks. If a 20 wk and with multiple compounds including 19-nor probably use 8-10 wk high dose (1000iu x 1/wk). Depends on BW and how big u like your balls. I dont like big balls. I like my balls kinda small, but not necessiarly gone...lol!!
Longdave555You're the best lol I'm still a couple months out as I'm finishing tightening up now. I'll start the HCG in 4 weeks at 250iu 2x a week on 500mg test and will post a new thread with my proposed cycle before I start.
At least make an attempt to take time off of AAS, if u arent on TRT. Just becuz the drugs are accesible, doesnt mean they need to be used all the time, or misused/abused.
And its not just a me thing, its a we thing and that includes u too...we want u to be the best and all u can be. Help us, help you be safe by acknowleding our suggestions and following through with them.
Longdave555I will certainly be safe and make sure to regularly check bloods and cycle as safe as possible. I will run TRT doses as well as take time off after this next 6 month run and give my body a break. I can't thank you all enough, you give on point no BS advise and have kept me safe so far. I will follow the advice I receive on here.
RustyhookerI hope he returns. Looks like he needs help after research.
Longdave555Sorry for the late replies. Always appreciate your guys' honest opinions
So true...have to put him under EROIDS house arrest!!
Longdave555You guys are funny lol