+ 1 Rich Piana New Years Cycle ..
Hey guys, here's Rich Piana's cycle he posted on Instagram and talked about on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFh3DhEgeE
The cycle outline is on his instagram ..
Week 1
Every M/W/F
1/2cc Test E
1/2cc Deca
1/2cc Mast P
GH 2.25iu ED
Week 2
Every M/W/F
3/4cc Test E
3/4cc Deca
3/4cc Mast P
GH 4.5iu ED
Week 3
Every M/W/F
1cc Test E
1cc Deca
1cc Mast P
GH 4.5iu ED
Week 4
Same as week 3 + 20mg dbol x2 a day
Week 5
Same as week 3 + 30mg dbol 2x a day
Week 6
Mon - 3cc Test E
Wed - 3cc Deca
Fri - 3cc Mast P
GH 4.5iu ED
Dbol 30mg 2x a day
Week 7
Same as week 6 but dbol 40mg 2x a day
Week 8
Same as week 6 but dbol 50mg 2x a day
Week 9
Every M/W/F
1cc Test C (300mg)
1cc Tren E (200mg)
1cc EQ (250mg)
GH 4.5iu ED
Anadrol 25mg 2x a day
Week 10
Same as week 9 but anadrol 50mg 2x a day
Week 11
Same as week 9 but anadrol 75mg 2x a day
Week 12
Mon - 3cc Test C
Wed - 3cc Tren E
Fri - 3cc EQ
GH 4.5iu ED
Anadrol 75mg 2x a day
Week 13
Same as week 12
Week 14
Same as week 12
Week 15
Mon - 2cc Test Prop + 1cc Primo
Wed - 1cc Primo
Fri - 1cc Primo
GH 4.5iu ED
Anadrol taper down from 150mg to 100mg anavar by thursday
Week 16
Every M/W/F
1cc Primo
GH 4.5iu ED
Anavar taper off by sunday
Week 17
Every M/W/F
5000iu HCG
GH 4.5iu ED
Week 18
Every M/W/F
2500iu HCG
GH 4.5IU ED
Week 19
Same as week 18
Week 20
Off everything
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Jeezus lol
this kinda of in reference to Rich and the above mentioned run.
Saw on youtube today "rich piana suffering...."
(I will try to grab the link and post it,) Well it is from everyones idol VEGAN GAINS
My god hilarious. Vegan is an PhukSchtik of Epic proportion. Mind you I am not a big fan of RP, to each their own. I and, I am sure many here at one point or another have ran as much if not more at certain points. If all preventative health measures are in place then I am not saying monster advanced cycles are exactly healthy , especially constantly but they imo are not life threatening. I stress here again, IF, preventative health measures, blood tests, and regular monitoring is in place.
Considering the recent VA long term test results that were published, being on test and basic gear long term in particular 40+ years and beyond is very likely to keep you healthier and your body functioning at a much higher level than those not on test and not participating in weight training and cardio activities.
RP in the end is maybe out to help people, and at minimum out to get all free pub he can for sure. I leave his ethics or lack there of, to later discussion. However, Vegan Gains' Psycho analysis and outlandish claims are just to damn funny. The kid is just a little publicity hound and off his Rocker
Makes me laugh , I mean man I love my my dogs for example, all I ever have had , I have loved. Treat them and feed them like I would my own flesh and blood. I assure you though my pups would be all to happy to eat an entire big angus or Kobe, or devour bob the bison.
I wish someone would wire the kids jaw shut so he can not yap so much lol
Yes it looks like vegan gains is doing him great ?
What gains ?
Does not look like he has even touched a bar, much less lifted or gained anything. Apparently at his young age he has a Psych Degree, is a nutritionist, Cardioligist and The moral compass for us all. WTF ...shut the hell up with your attention seeking bs kid. He needs to analyze himself and why all us meathead gear monsters intimidate him so very much and seem to occupy his every little thought and you tube post.
It is amusing for someone who seems to think he is so forward thinking, that he as so many often do, tries to shove his little opinions which often oppose each other, down everyone else's throat. That is a behavior that is not the slightest bit endearing.
lol I know for sure that if I were stranded on a boat at sea or a mountain with me, Vegan and my dog, that two of the three would most likely be coming home. Vegan would regret foregoing meat, gear and heavy iron worrying about reaching his twilight years of stick thin creeping ....since he would not be able to resist when he was ceremoniously Turned in to me and the pups survival jerky. Come on Vegan....you do not expect me to break your rules and harm my pup do you my son ? :))
.......... like I said I hate to send hits his way, but hell you have to watch it to get yourself a monster laugh fellas
Out of interest can you please link the study regarding long term test use?
TBH, I couldn't care less about people like them.
What's the point in shit talking about people or giving them some hate? They are presenting themselfes on an online basis, so, every click they get, the more money they are able to earn (If they're clever enough)
When watching videos in that business, I rather spent my time on informative sources also because they deserve every single click, which I rather give them instead of some bro full of BS.
If I'd be in their position, I would actually be pretty greatful if I don't just have fans but start controversic topics and get some haters as well. Simply cashflow which comes in. Even though you obviously don't like those people (and I can't tell because first off, I never watched anything of Vegan and second I think Rich Piana is a joke and absolutely irresponsible) they lean back at home and watching how their pile of money rises and probably laugh about all the haters because it's like you open your purse, give them 10 bucks only to let them know how you feel about them.
That being said, what I don't like and where I get pretty angry is when jokes like Rich Piana try to be "informative" but forgets that he'll most likely be a role model for some as well. Why do you think that there are more and more kids getting on this board asking for cycle advice? It's because of fucks like him. (Generalized) They look up to him, he talks open about steroid usage and all they see and hear is simply that the only way to achieve smt is by taking such compounds.
If you already feel the need to talk about steroid, than I'd rather see a neutral information with pro/cons of it and stuff we teach the people here as well. (I kept it at only steroids, it's actually more about anything they talk about. This is why there's still so much broscience and misinformation going on. Selfclaimed professionals spreading the word with a large crowd of followers)
So, the only solution I see is to simply ignore them and when you here someone actually talking about following them, maybe you should try to lead them to more informative channels/people to follow.
With that, you still keep your opinion, you do not support them by any means and you can spent your energy must better then bragging about stuff.
Oups, I only wanted to say a few words...seems like it didn't work out that well^^
Perico,
no worries brother, I ended up on an unintended little tirade as well hehe
I agree with you. I usually do just ignore the hell of most of them and any of (the kid we will not mention: ilk like him. To them any publicity or attention ,even bad attention, is good. So let them whither and fade.
True and realistic information presented in a professional manner is much preferred I agree with you there.
Totally feel you man! Sometimes I drift away and get super angry about smt or someone and would like to write it down immediately, to let everyone know ;)
Exactly. And the sad thing is, people who really deserves it because they actually share real info, have pretty few followers. I think, the fitness industry is not any different to other areas. People like to been entertained and think, all the glitter and gold is fabulous.
Even as a noob to AAS I feel my liver hurting from those large amount of orals, I knew he was hard core like coleman with the stacks, but damn.....
i was looking at this on IG.
personally i think its a very advanced cycle for the experienced user.
However , it was irresponsible to post it up on IG, im just thinking of the kids who try to copy this, and the easy access to such a monster cycle.
lmao if a kid or teen or even normal adult in their mid twenties can afford that cycle or even half of it id say there are very few.
I like it.
Time you lost some Karma for being a stupid prick.
-3 everytime i see you co-sign pure bullshit the -3s will follow.
Grow up! be a man!...... learn the proper way or fuck off.
BOOM !!
Have some of that...funny as fuck
RustyhookerYou're a troll
Nice of him to put up his new year cruise..
Wonder what his blasts look like..
The synthol blast? I'm guessing 3 cc's
3??? Yeah right!! You stab him in those floppy no muscle having arms of his and it would cause a ecological disaster!!
Valdez doesn't have shit on that turd!!
unless you are rich piana or have a lot of cycles under your belt, enough to understand how each compound and dose will effect your body.. its not very smart to be running something so advance like this cycle.. a lot of compounds, high enough doses to see side-effects, and 16 weeks on... c'mon guys this is a good cycle for him, you want a good cycle for YOU, then post it up, im sure we can help you out..
Longdave555Appreciate the help. I posted my current cut just now in weight loss. I want to go single digit body fat and not lose any muscle while cruising on 300-400mg test. Once I get single digit I really want to grow but stay lean. I want to walk around 220 or 240 ripped in time ..
hey bro 220lbs- 240lbs ripped is very doable.. its just take a SHIT ton of food.. you got the right idea first thing is to get lean.. then start implementing carbs on your diet and always do cardio.. FR sent i can show the diet plan i followed that got me the best results.. the main thing is that you are going to have to get off, pct before you start anything back up...
Longdave555Hey brother, so I'm doing 400p 0c 90f and getting lean right now. I'm trying to plan AAS, GH and any other peptides I'll need for a lean blast sometime in the future. I'll send you a message now
400g of protein isnt really all to necessary unless youre bulking, and ,imo, running a bit of thyroid so your body can metabolize and synthesize that much protein in a day.. just my .02 and without any carbs (just to let you know you are most likely getting some trace carbs in there, most likely <20g/day) but with such low carbs, and only 90g of fat your body will be forced to start using all that protein for fuel. and thats not what you want...
i find what works best, unless youre doing a ketogenic diet, which would require you to really up the fat your consuming is cycling your carbs. using just enough to supply your body with enough fuel for the day without letting your body dip into protein stores for energy. dropping them down or out completely to use up the stored glycogen before adding them back in to refill and shock the body with a high carb day which causes a flushing effect which keeps the fat coming off over time. and keeping enough healthy fats in there like omega -3, fish oil and mcts like conconut oil ect. to help with bodily function. leaning out is mostly based on total calories. calorie expenditure vs calorie intake. the trick is to divide up those total daily cals amongst the correct marcos
Longdave555I like everything you said. I'm adding 50 grams of sugar 30 mins into my weights and that ends 30 mins after my workout. I just snack on skittles. So my daily carb intake is probably close to 60-75 grams at most. Protein is at 400 grams and fats are at 90. Instead of going 7 days of no carbs do you feel it would make more sense to go maybe 4-5 days followed by 1-2 days of 350 grams of carbs to prevent muscle loss like you were saying ? My diet looks exactly like this right now:
Wake Up
32oz water
5 grams salt
40 mins fasted cardio heart rate at 110bmp
30-40 mins weight training, using salt for the pumps
50 grams of sugar spread out 30 mins before and after my workout
Meal 1
75g whey protein
1 T olive oil
10g fiber
Meal 2-6
6oz plain baked chicken breast skinless
1 T EVO or 2 T natty pb
I add 2 more 25g whey protein shakes with fiber in after 2 of the chicken meals
What do you feel is optimal to preserve muscle and lose fat while doing cyclical keto here ? 4-5 days on and 1-2 days of 350 carbs or ?
Fuck me ....Man up and eat some food fella, I'd be flat on my ass within an hour if I was to eat like a 2 year old.
Clean diet which can still mean plenty of food, small meals regular will keep that fat burning furnace a light when kicked off with first thing cardio on a catabolic body...take some bcaa's to prevent muscle wastage during your cardio and then consume your first meal 30 mins after cardio..
All this sugar and salt is a load of bollocks. ..
God gave us nuts as we are meant to be MEN!
im speechless............. totally fkn speechless ;?
Longdave555I'm so confused lol what's wrong with a cyclical keto to lose fat ?!
The whole point of a keto diet is to stay in ketosis so fat is what is used for fuel and not carbs. As soon as you truly get into keto you are going to carb back up and defeat the whole purpose of what you are trying to do. Doesn't make any sense.
Longdave555This is my logic lol .. After 3 days of no carbs I'm pretty depleted. If I continue to not consume carbs I feel like I will lose muscle. So, I think what I'm doing is less about keto, but more about creating a large calorie deficit through carb depletion for 3 days at a time and then brining my glycogen levels back to normal to prevent muscle loss. Less keto more aggressive dieting .. does this make sense to you guys ?
all of that yo-yoing and large cal deficit is going to wreck your metabolism and seems like a very uncomfortable way to cut.
Longdave555Ok, so for me, the larger calorie deficit is more enjoyable for me to cut on, but I need to make sure that I don't lose muscle this time, which I feel good about after talking with you bout high protein and high fat intake the entire way through ..
Days 1-3
2500 calories
400p 50c 90f
Day 4
3600 calories
300p 350c 90f
If my metabolism slows down a bit, I could always add in some cardio, I will keep you posted with weights and carb intake int he other forum ..
Thanks bro............. +3
Longdave555I see your point, the comment I left above I would say the same to you, does that makes sense ?
but at what height? 6'? cus it would take alot more than just food and AAS to be acceptably lean <10% at 220-240lbs my height 5'6" even with a gram+ of AAS and eating tons of cals, theres a point when the majority of those calories arent going towards building new lean tissue. even if you back them down a bit theres only so much muscle you can build so quickly. i struggle to get past 200lbs staying lean during a bulk. anymore and i start getting too fat more my liking. i guess thats when gh comes into play
Never needed GH to get over 200 lean. Never needed gear to be light heavy naturally. I've also never been over 14 to 16% bf in my life. Along with the right macros and portions it comes down to food timing and quick carbs and slow carbs. Slow absorbing proteins etc etc. There is a lot that can be done with food.
I didnt need GH to get to 270+........ never prepped with GH............... fuck GH its unneeded imo.
Longdave555I wanted to experiment with peptides to produce natural HGH instead of synthetic .. Once I hit single digit body fat I want to prepare a blast and stay as lean as possible, I don't really want my abs to ever fade. I've read that growth will make this a lot easier. I will come to you guys with proposed cycle and diet before lol
Funny how some swear its the key lmfao
Unless you're pumping huge amounts of it into your system there's very little visible benefit. And when I say "huge", you're one of the few that knows how much we're really talking about here.
You know what hgh does for me? Costs me more money in razor blades and haircuts.
RustyhookerThe money used for razors would Boost my wallet. Damn things are expensive
Get a safety razor and some Japanese feather blades, closest shave you can get sans straight razor, and dirt cheap too. The blades are inexpensive, and if you clean them they'll last even longer.
RustyhookerNice, I'll look into that! The 3 bladed type that doesnt burn me is like 15 bucks a pack.
I bought a 50 count of feather double edge razors on Amazon for like 15 bucks a couple of months ago, I'm not even anywhere near done with half the pack.
RustyhookerMany cuts during use? Haven't tried that style yet. Top of head too?
Only the first few times as I was getting used to the angle of holding the blade, after that I rarely have a cut... Maybe once every few shaves, unless I slice a stray pimple clean off.
As for the top of the head, I haven't shaved it all the way down in over a year, but it was pretty smooth sailing for me (I guess head shape and composition will affect everyone differently) except for the back of my head... I had my girl do that because I could never get the fold in my back quite nice haha.
I also realized that once you switch from that foam in a can to a bar or the equivalent it becomes a much better shave in general.
RustyhookerThanks for all that info!
I'm the same height and reached 220 but my bf was not to my liking. I had the powerlifter look goin. Had crazy strength but felt like shit at that weight. My question is have you reached 190 lean? That's my goal, I'm at 178 now.
RustyhookerCheck his pix. Kap is large. Another mighty midget on here.
If you believe you have to stay on test at low cycle dose year round so you dont loose any muscle then i have to give you my honest opinion here..............
You have your head firmly stuck up your fkn ass and have not got a single fkn clue about real Bodybuilding........... fuckers like you are what gives my long time lifestyle a bad name and ostracises real Bodybuilders towards society because they get the impression we are all like you!!.
You need to wake up! and grow up son!
Longdave555I'm pretty open minded, this is just what I've always been told to do
If someone tells me a safer alternative way to do things I would listen
Why does someone need to tell you? You're on a site full of safe and sensible proving cycling methods, get stuck into the search function. If this is what you've been told to do by others, it's bollocks and maybe time for you to work it out for yourself rather than entrusting your future endocrine system to others.
What Viking us telling you us that if a guy of your age can't hold onto the muscle you have unless you're permanently on gear then your diet / training / both aren't up to scratch. After reading through your other posts you come across as though you don't have a clue what you're doing, time to step back and reevaluate before you make a permanent mess of yourself.
hey Cat, just a thought. no disrespect to you or vike. just playing devils advocate here. but isnt it impossible to hold a certain amount of muscle on a certain size frame without having a certain level of hormones present? whether they are exogenous or not? ...maybe not at first but over time, and quickly at that. no matter how much food you consume. the body will revert back to what it can naturally hold onto with regular physiological levels of T. all that extra food will do it keep glycogen up, slow down muscle breakdown to a point but say someone is much farther across the threshold of what their body can hold, muscle wise, simply continuing to train hard, eat right ect. wont be enough to hold on to that un-natural amount of muscle, correct? to have un-natural amount of muscle, you cannot be natural. just seems logical.
for sake of arguement, say a national level competitor, uses gh, AAS... the lot. came off completely. and completely recovered their HPTA in record time. just say. being that developed to stand on a national stage muscle wise, are you saying having completely healthy hpta function, along with continued proper training and eating enough will be sufficient to hold that level of musculature?
Yes, but look at this guys stats. He isn't there yet.