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making a gram of test or more work?

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Seeing several folks now post that going above a gram is a waste unless using pharma hgh. Saw mention of hcg too.

We're unbinding test with various orals. But what is the route at a gram or more?

Catalyst's picture

Not a waste, far from it. Just need the experience and knowledge to control issues like E2 etc. There's plenty of guys on the pro scene running 4+g of test per week. Side effects / issues are amplified exponentially at high doses.

Rustyhooker's picture

Mainly made this post because I'm seeing many vets post a comment about 1 gram or more won't work unless you use hgh. Another comment was made that it won't work without hcg in there. But when I pm or on post ask why, there's no answers or replies. Anything past the moderate level gets left alone as top secret.

Just trying to find some reality. Smile

Catalyst's picture

I think the issue that arises is people think 1g of test will raise your levels to twice that of 500mg, it won't. In the same way, 2g of test won't produce twice the level that 1g does. You know yourself I'll regularly run 750mg of sust and 750mg of test e/c per wk on a bulk.

Hgh to make it work - no. Irrelevant. Especially considering most of the hgh around is Chinese bollocks.

Rustyhooker's picture

From reading and running cycles it always seemed better to run a stack. Mixing in chems that hit your goal whether it's shorts mixed in there or switching orals etc. Keep the body guessing as well as the goal...bulk...Recomp etc.

I saw various comments made over the years that over saturation needs...X....or Y... to keep the gains coming.

I've seen your stacks and stats. Obvious that you're very on track.

irongame427's picture

This is something we've talked about before and get multiple answers for. Can't tell you. And I can't even give my experience cause everytime I try to run close to a gram (900mg) my blood work reflects 250-500mg ew. So I can't even tell you if or if not I felt like it was worth it. I hope my 3rd try at running close to a gram next winter works. Gonna have to go pharma and hope to not get fakes.

Rustyhooker's picture

The old gurus ideals are what inspired me in the past. A stack that gives more boom for less sides. Some chems we know enhance the others. Trying to think outside and over the box.

When I went over 200 lbs lean I was on just sust at 450 and flat ate everything.

Gymjunkie01's picture

Rusty imo if your going above a gram several things is a must .. Provi @100mg a day and as much as I do not advertise this u have to master using insulin and the timing with diet for it to do any good . If not your just pissing most of it out

Rustyhooker's picture

I've typically run my cycles with lower test...eq run as example. 750 currently is the highest test unless you consider the prop at kick or taper when there's overlap.

Slin so far I just don't think I'm at that caliber yet. Stocky and thick but not a true mass monster at all imo. Maybe not thinking big is a restriction? My fear with slin is added fat.

Gymjunkie01's picture

Gotta be very careful diet has to be on point