+ 6 Somas Test Prop and IGF numbers on Pharma HGH
Ok guys here are the result in 300 mg test prop and 300 mg tren ace, bloods pulled 48 hours after last 100 mg of test prop. I've been on GU gear for about 3 weeks now, feeling great, getting lean in the daily basis, very vascular and libido up. i thought i was getting lean because the HGH but now i know its not, the fact that am only 50 points up in my IGF doing 2.7 iu ed before bed of genos for month and a half make me think that this genos are bad(my baseline is 207), not bunk but bad maybe they got bad in shipping (which took a month BTW )or something, other guy was complaining of cloudy Genos at the same time i received this. i talked to the source and the first thing they said back to me was " I DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE YOU UP TO WITH THIS?", well sir i paid big money for this Genos am expecting quality.
In the other hand i guess the increment in my IGF is because of the peptides am using, 250 mcg upon wake up ghrp2 with cjc/no dac and 250 mcg frag pre workout.
Doing Balkan Prov at 50 mg, love this product make u feel great all day long and make u look like a rock.
Am gonna have to up the adex from .25 ed to .50 ed am prone to high estro, am dropping the tren is doing wonders but got my lipid panel out of whack.
well guys i think this cover everything, if u have a question shot me a pm.
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Shipping took 2 weeks and not 1 month.
Also I have gotten his geno:s before they come straight from the manufacture in turkey even the guy I know the name works at the plants where they come from so taking hgh at night before bed is stupid unless u are on hgh replacement only
P2i2tafter a while doesn't HGH desensitize you? Therefore if you were running HGH for a prolonged amount of time wouldn't it be necessary to use it before bed because you will not get your natural pulses anymore at that time like you used to?I'm really not sure of this process 100% so I'm asking a serious question. It makes sense to me though. And if this is the case then I'm sure this is why people do it
First off u never take hgh before bed only first thing in the morning the body produces hgh at night while u sleep u will never get good levels taking at night before bed just saying if u were prescribed by a dr for replacement therapy then yes before bed is correct but not for building muscle also ius mean nothing its how much mgs are being giving not ius that just a unit of measure and just so people know hgh by its self does not make u big cut yes big no ...28 years of research I know what I'm talking about u guys can say other wise but I know what I'm talking about two degrees molecular cell biology. And Pharmacology plus if u got his geno pens they are measured by mg 5.3 or 12mg so u wouldn't really know the true ius your taking the pen is dosed by mgs on the side u dialed up not IUs
P2i2tI am guessing we use the term iu's for reasons none other than convenience.it is known that every 3iu's that we refer to equals 1 milligram of HGH.this way when everybody says I am taking x amount of iu's it is equal to the other person saying I am taking y amount of iu's. and it is much easier to understand and to calculate dosages using this method. for instance somebody taking 2iu's daily when referring to his dose is easier to say "I am running 2iu's daily" then to say "I am running .66mg daily". as long as everybody's concept of the value of iu's is equal then it can be referred to as such without a problem.just easier to understand, explain, and simply talk about your dosing protocols when using whole numbers in iu form instead of decimals and fractions of milligrams in the proper form.just my view on it anyways
Yes u are correct in both areas but also depends on the purity of the GH there are only 4 real Pharm companies that make it anymore at a high quality 95% or higher witch is very important when it comes to mg to mg as in if u take .66 mg of geno vs .66 of purity that's say 85% pure u would need double if not tripple the amount to achieve the same blood levels a lot of the tests done on here u see if 10ius of hgh or 3mg or more in one dose that's a big dose witch blood levels should be sky high considering only taking .66 of a mg geno 5.3 mg pen that would mean your almost taking the whole pen in one shot lol that's a large dose HGH is supposed to be taken for at least a year or more to see good effects and u are correct taking HGH will make u desensitized over prolonged used but if your taking it for muscle or fat loss it doesn't really matter dose it lol plus again HGH by itself is not a huge mass builder but u use it with test tren and insulin lol now u got something but again everyone is diff just research has shown for HGH therapy take it at bed time for fat loss and lean muscle take it in the morning and at higher dose like .6mg a day 6 days a week for a year or more u could do a lot more but who really has the money lol not me
If The HGH got bad during shipping then i will replace the kits.
But how come you write a negative review when we are already addressing the problem and your “issue” ?
You say in your review that you can’t fell anything at all
But i believe these was your first words when you got the shipment
"10 days on them at 2iu a day right before bed. am sleeping like baby having vivid and weird dreams. last night i dreamed a friend from my childhood i didn't even remember that guy exists. lol. Not having any bad sides like with generic HGH only the goods."
You say my communication sucks but i have answered all your mails within 2 days.
you are very misleading in your statements sir and this biz is full of scammers why should i believe you ? you could easilyhave faked all this to get free shit.
i need to make sure you are telling me the truth and not only are after free shit.
I will dig thru the tracking codes and see what the TA was on your order these Genos are good for at least a month non cold before they start to degrade and get cloudy. when u mixed them they was crystal clear is that correct?
Yes they were crystal clear and look and smell like the real deal and Yes sir u are correct i said exactly that, i was sleeping as a baby, i also said i didn't felt any of the other sides i experience with HGH like numb hands, sleepiness, joint pain etc. and about scam u, believe me sir that i dont need your free shit i just want this issue to be address because i switch from a very good generics to yours and not feeling half of what i felt with them, i was expecting much from this Genos, how come am only having 50 points up in my IGF while 4iu of generics raise it almost 350??
I would be more worried about your cholesterol wow high better get that number down or u will be having worse problems then IGF numbers not being a asshole those numbers are not good could really cause a problem soon
the worst thing u can do is judge legitimacy by sides come on man. I don't experience joint pain numbing of hands with my serostim which i know for a fact is legit. However I did exp it when I ran china crap.
P2i2tI agree. All I have ever ran was Pharma HGH. I have never ran generics before. But I can tell you I have never experienced any sides such as numbing of hands or tingling fingers or anything else I hear like this.maybe a little bit of tiredness at the beginning, but that is about the extent of it
Can't tell that to any of the gurus running around lmfao
Me either!!!! Im not alone hahaha. Only ran about 30oiu 5iu daily but i never get sides. Also ran empee Genos no sides... always a case by case to the individual on sides
P2i2tEmpee genos? Or EmPee nords you mean?
Have u ever had bad IGF numbers with your seros sir?this is my first run with pharma and i was expecting more, but if IGF numbers don't matter when u running pharma, how can u tell if they r working or not? Can u explain? I love to hear from an expert whose been running pharma for a while.
How long were you completely off GH before you established the 207ng/mL base line?
I would say about a month
Gotcha. Yea, that's plenty of time. 207 is a great baseline #. Must me a young buck.
I just wonder if pinning at bedtime had anything to do with suppressing natural GH pulse. Bedtime pinning is normally a GHD protocol.
I wonder about this too. Yesterday I started 3.6iu geno´s prebed. Would morning be better?
I would split those in half, first thing in the morning and prebed
I was thinking running pharma prebed and generics in the morning. Is running generics and pharma together a bad idea?
Not at all I will do that to save some money and get good results. I think am gonna do that once i test the other genos I ordered.
Just thinking about the "bio-inavailable" IGF-1 and shit that everybody is talking about lately
With the current quality of the Xhinese stuff....I dunno....especially all the Hyge stuff. Kinda like mixing some Crystal with some Convenient Store Champaign. I guess it all taste the same?
Totally agreed if u go with that hygenpharma crap
Actually I ordered some somastim
Those seem promising . Karl stands by them
They honestly seem like the only cheap GH that seems promising right now. I plan to order 4 kits and run igf and serums on every kit I buy. Free blood work through my job... can't beat it. Realistically though, everyone stands by their hgh. Double G stood by his own personal VIPtropin factory right before he skipped town. Mostly every source selling hygenepharma hyges is standing by them too. This game is never a dead lock unfortunately.
I often wondered when a member posted shitty blood work from using 3-5 kits of VIPS continuously......was it a bad batch...or just prolonged use of counterfeit GH....hmmm,mm
I knew from the get-go that something was off when he was telling everyone that he ran half Rips and half VIPs everyday. I mean, if you have YOUR OWN source of gh thats supposedly testing as good as Rips were without the bloating, then why spend extra money to get GH from someone else? That never made sense to me and was definitely a red flag. Plus why set-up a lab that could actually produce the shit which would cost serious capitol, just to sell to people on eroids and risk a charge? The few kits I did buy, I had results from and he never burned me, thank god, so I can't complain. Another thing was that he was always the one who was posting what the batches serums tested at. I saw more so-called tests from him than anyone else, and I think most people ate it up and didn't even really bother with bloods. What can you do though? I just try and use some common sense on here. I do have some laughs though.
Woot Woot.....ole BStiles did have some good "Molly"....so I was told. @_@
For me, I've gotten a steady IGF-1 elevation with AM subq pinning. I've tried the split dose and my IGF-1 dropped. (Also added some Tren A and it dropped my IGF-1 by half. But not really sure if that was the cause of it) I have read that if you do AM pinning first to get the preferred IGF-1 elevation, then you can start a split dose.
I'm not questioning Hulks lab results at all. In the GH Blackmarket game,...anything can happen unfortunately. I appreciate him posting them up.
I dont think so, i pinned hyges 2 iu before bed and numbers looks good, trainer said is good to do it at night because at night is when ur body grows.
Yeah... but does your body grow at night because that's when your natural GH pulse is?
Good point.
I will say though, right before I ran out, I pinned 5ius of generics and took an afternoon nap after my workout and woke up pumped as hell. I've had good results splitting my doses up too, morning and afternoon... but it seemed like I got more out of it when I pinned in the afternoon and then rested afterwards. I just ordered some stuff. I'm gonna do a month or two like that and see where it gets me. I'm starting to think that getting some sleep right after you pin increases the results. So I'll keep my natty pulse goin at night and see what this does.
Gotcha, if the HYGES gave you a higher IGF-1 from nighttime pinning them I see what ya saying. But you also did 2ius am with the HYGES? 2iu split dose?
Thats correct, i think is better do split doses during the day than just 1
Is that even possible?lol
Nope lol !
I have never had these side with FDA HGH you are talking bout apart from sleepiness if i dose high enough.
I dont know all the factors here and i can’t tell you why your levels is where they are at I’m not a doc.
I always use the mirror to tell me whats up.
If you want me to help you with this it not going to be live on eroids you can instead reply to that email i already sent you.
Actually sir i also wrote that, that i was happy because not having bad sides only the goods. How in hell i want to scam u if i wrote good thing about ur hgh in your SI. Checked all emails and u will c i never asked for replacement i just wanna know why labs reflect something was out.
RustyhookerWhat's your prop dosing? I got lost between 300 and 100 and eod.
3 weeks in and pinning....?
3 weeks on somas prop and i pin 3 times per week 100 mg prop and 100 mg tren ace
Rustyhooker3 times per week? Ouch.
basically EOD... not ideal but to each their own i guess
P2i2tI know you said your diet is super clean but I just can't imagine that tren or any other aas alone would cause such a bad level without your diet or somethimg else being at least a little out of whack as well. Not saying you are lying but its just really tough to imagine this level being caused only by a compound. So I really hope you figure out what is the main factor of it. But first and foremost...stop aas immediately! Just a recommendation, but a strong one. good luck bro!
U know what man u r right the protein shake i was taking has 70 mg per scoop and i was taking easily 3 servings
P2i2tWow...glad you caught this bro. yes sometimes we tend to forget to look at things that we consider healthy just because of the fact that our mind considers them healthy because of one feature about the item. In this case protein. "It's good for me because there is a lot of protein" is the usual thought process.and unfortunately it may blind us to what else we may be actually ingesting. well time to switch it up and fix yourself! Good catch bro
You never truly know what is in proprietary blends or secret mixes