posted Fri, 03/27/2015 - 13:52
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Tren cough
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So what about this so called "Tren cough" I always hear about when there's talk of someone running it. I have ran twice 2x previously and an currently running it for a 3rd. I have never experienced this side effect. Is it something only some people are prone to? Or is it only with the Ace ester?
I'm pretty much an enanthate guy. Test & Tren E is my favorite cycle.
So... Is it really only an ace side effect or just that not all of us are not prone to it?
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ive used tren ace from 4 different labs have gottEn tren cough 5 out o 7 jabs a week , one of those labs i didnt get it once so i assumed it was fake, but the cough strength varies on potency, pm me for the best tren ace ive ever used cuz i know i cant talk sources on her , the cough had me layin on my bed sweating , shits no joke hah
I've run two cycles of tren, the first I was coughing before I had even capped the pin. The second, didn't experience it at all
The worst tren cough I ever had was off npp , I get it off most compounds , think it happens when you nic a vain , don't think its ester or compound related , just if it gets into your blood stream
The cough comes from the oil getting into your lungs and causing micro-embolisms. Some compounds can make it more painful and prolonged.
Not sure what causes it. What's weird to me is the fact that no matter what. I always get it once out of every bottle I have, just with tren though. Idk man I just think thats odd. It also doesn't matter if it's ace or enanthate for me. We also use the same source and yes it happened with theirs as well. I've never experienced that type of cough before. The feeling of it trips me out.
Try injecting SLOWLY over a 1-2 minute period and
it can help totally avoid this strange phenomenon
My experience with Tren cough is 1x in two 8 week Tren cycles. My Tren cycle meaning cut stack, (test p 50mg, tren a 50mg & mast p 50 mg) It occurred with a pin to my right glute, trust me if you get a cough like I had, you will have that memory of which a$$ check you were poking as you glare into the mirror. I can say it was the Tren that did it, but like I've read in this thread, Tren is more likely the culprit. If your like me, and it happenes or will happen rarely, I say it's still worth it, but if I got a cough every time I pinned the cut stack, I will personally would have bought the compounds separately until I isolated the compound giving me the cough, but that's not the case, and I am lucky, so far that is, and only had it once. I was using 23g 1 1/2 pin, not sure if that helps. I am hearing 25g-30g is being used more so, but I think that could potentially make it easier to nick a vein.
What do you mean isolate the compound givin you the cough? It doesn't matter which compound you're injecting, read below. If oil gets into your bloodstream, you're going to experience the cough... It's more pronounced with Tren, but it doesn't matter if it's test, winny, deca, etc.
What I mean by isolating the compounds, is isolating the compounds individually. My workout partner has been a bodybuilder for years, and can't use tren because that particular compound gets in his blood stream and causes the cough effect every time he would inject, the dude literally tried every possible way to inject it and the areas and the poor ba$tard went through the cough every time. Mast/test/eq, whatever ect... doesn't have the same effect as tren in the blood stream when. I bet most of us nick a vein every injection, but tren is the beast that makes you cough the hardest.
Very interesting, so no matter what he did he got the cough? I wonder how it manages to get into his bloodstream every time though, very peculiar.
This is very interesting to me cause when I started this post just assumed what I thought Tren cough was. But I've learned I was totally wrong. I had no idea it was any big deal. I was thinking just a simple like "feel the need to clear your throught" type of cough. Like you cough a coue of times and it's no big deal. Actually I thought of it as more positive thing. I thought that maybe it was a side effect some people look for as being a good sign that's it's legit tren. Wow. How little did I know about tren cough!!!??? I had no idea it was terrible or something people hated.
hahaha I just read that last reply I wrote, I made it seem like the injection I did was perfect bahahah what a duesh I am for that..
Yep, I even tried administering for him, but even with perfect technique still got the cough. What makes sense to me is even if you re not injecting directly into a vein, likely you will have broken/cut blood vessels on the way in, and theres always a small portion of juice that is comming back the injection path, and into the broken blood vessels you made on the way in. Man it pisses me off when I pin and oil starts coming out of the injection spot lol....
That's what I reckon must be his issue, that when he removes the needle, as the oil disperses it gets into his bloodstream via nicked vessels, and him being super sensitive to the compound haves him coughing. This is not a scientific opinion whatsoever, and if anyone care to dispute/correct this I appreciate it ahead of time.
Do you utilize the Z-track method? Ever since I started using it, I've managed to eliminate the oil from leaking out after I "unpin." I also leave the needle in for about 30 seconds after injecting, and rotate sites giving each site at least two weeks of break.
Thanks man. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's the new MCT oil that some sources are suspending thier gear in that's allowing for smaller pinz then the traditional 23guage
Yezzir, we are both using the same source I believe, I am expecting my first order with them shortly. FR sent.
Well, maybe so. And if it is, I am sure you will not be disappointed. It's pretty easy to figure out who my guy is, all you need do is scroll through my pics. Lol
FR accepted
Some people are more prone. For my personal research it seems as though people who don't smoke get it often but every smoker Ive know has not. It has a lot to do with the lungs so this could be a reason.
Thanks for chiming in bro I appreciate all the feedback. But I think couple of the gentle man a few comments on there did a very good job offering and explanation. Thanks to all who chimed in
It's because some of the oil enters your bloodstream. It has nothing to do if u smoke. U could smoke four packs a day but u won't get tren cough if none enter your bloodstream or u could never smoke a cig and get it if some does enter your bloodstream
That's interesting that you brought that up because that thought actually crossed my mind. I am a non-smoker. So the thought did cross my mind if that may have had anything to do with it
Tren cough is nothing more than some of the oil u injected entering the bloodstream. I have smoked Proly five cigs in my life and I had a spell last five minutes or so. It was my worse coughing fit and it was test and masteron. It's not a fun experience by any means and it can potential be very very serious depending on the amount that enters your bloodstream. Most time it's just a knicked vein and just a little seeps in
Actually thanks to all you guys who responded to offer something. This is something that's been in the back of my head ever since I started with gear. I always heard about it. But when the time came for me to jump on the tren train, I never experienced it. So it always peeked my curiosity.
when the oil hits blood it travels to your heart, heart rate turbulance (hrt) occurs and capilaries become blocked at the ends, causing respiotary irritation, and obviously your bodies defence mechanism kicks in and you start coughing, its more common with tren ace and ace in general because your pinning more often in multiple sites, so more chance of nicking veins etc etc
Boom as it travels to your heart and passes to your lungs it creates microembolism. That is what cause u to cough. Plus two. I get so tired of guys saying it's tren that cause this. It's actual any oil if it enters your bloodstream will cause this where the name comes from is that tren tends to have the worse coughing fits. I've had this happen using test and mast.
Wow. Very informative. You know your stuff. Thanks for taking the time to put that up
It's an interesting thing you brought up. I was going to start a thread about it a while ago.
I got a vicious cough from test ace and was wondering if it was the ester as well, got it twice.
"Test ace?" Did you mean to say "tren" ace or are actually talking about a testosterone.
Testosterone acetate. Its got a shorter half life than prop but a longer one than tne. Again, it doesn't matter what compound injected it is, if it gets in your blood stream it will possibly give you the cough. I know there's a more scientific thread on here, but I can't find it...
Wait. I don't mean to be a broken record but am I getting this right. I want to be sure. You guys are actually talking about "TESTOSTERONE" suspended in acetate ester. It's just really wierd to me. The only compound I have ever heard acetate ester used for is tren. I don't recall ever seeing a source that Carry's Test Ace. Since I would fall somewhere in between prop and TNE Id assume if for a person running it, the protocal would be EOD.. But now that I think about it, I just recently for the first time did see testosterone suspended in undecanoate in a long ester blend of sustanon. So basically does this mean it's possible to suspend just about any AAS hormone in any ester??
I'm not the resident scientist on this site, you'd have to consult cry or cat for that
but theoretically I would think it is. Doesn't mean realistically it's worth it or currently attainable. And test acetate is being carried by more and more sources lately, it's just one of those "new fads" imo. Ideally it would be pinning ED for maximum blood stability.
Ok. Cool. Thanks for the info man. I appriciate it
Anytime brother.
I just started my first Tren A cycle this past Sunday.
Last night was my third pin first two were glutes and last night was the delt. As I pulled out a little blood ran down my shoulder. I didn't get no cough but I felt like an aluminum taste in my mouth. I gotta admit I was kind of spooked waiting for the cough to come but it never did. I recently read a post here on Eroids not everybody gets the tren cough hopefully you and I are not one of them.
It's when the oil enters your bloodstream, doesn't need to be Tren, can be any oil in general. Tren is just more pronounced.
True dat ^^^^
This is true it's happened to me twice already with Test E in the quads, shits nothing nice But only lasted about a minute. Does give you a little scare at first but you get through it.
That's all it is.
I also ran ,2 previous tren a cycles and never the cough . And I pin ed . This current cycle I get the cough. Quite a bit .. it will come , and I actually .ade the same comment you did . 2 previous cycles no cough , now.bing , if it can find blood o you will know it , I actually dont cough I get a burning in my throat thats over whelming but never so bad I pin slow and if it comes on , im changing a tip
Interesting. Thanks for the info guys