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+ 1 UG vs Pharmacy ( is ester accounted for with pharm)

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Does pharmacy grade account for ester?
Example.

250mg per ml of test E
Because of ester ur actually only getting 175mg testosterone (estimated per ml)

Does pharmacy grade add more powder to make up for ester and make it as labeled?

As far as making ur own
How much powder do u need to make it so u actually get 250mg per ml of test?

lilswede's picture

My Pfizer depo cyp 10ml has .2ml bb. And 9.45mg ba. In cotton seed oil My pharmacy offers compound test for $10 cheaper and its actually less pip than the pfizer. And just as potent it doesn't list solvents on the compounded. Those are the only pharma I have tried I will ask about the cmp next time im at the pharmacy.

Catalyst's picture

In a pharmaceutical setting, no.

UGL - I imagine most are the same. Down to them to decide.

Making it yourself, you know we don't discuss that in the forums.

Theonslaught's picture

Not about making ur own.

But thanks for response

solidman's picture

Yes the Bayer ampoules carry more than one cc, but it is specified in the paper that is 180mg of test e per cc.

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

i pondered this same question myself. pharma is just so much better imo, its all ill use now. but why? even with supposed lm/cs reports confirming raws of ugls in the upper 90s why is pharma sooo much better? ..i read somewhere on basskiller, compound pharmacies use phenyl salicylate as a solvent instead of the ugl ba/bb. perhaps is helps in absorbing the hormone better to where its more effective? all anecdotal and only based on a comment by Dazed.

but imo, even with the ester. HG 175mg (250mg), would beat out 250mg (357.14mg on label) of ugl anyday

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Theonslaught's picture

Nice.

My Pfizer depo had more than 1 ml per 1 ml vial.
Right from pharmacy but I thought that was odd

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

they usually have .1 or .2 above a cc to account for loss in drawing ect. thats not by accident. most doctors will draw up and expunge the left over until its only 1 cc. us juice-heads will pull up every drop we can though haha

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irongame427's picture

When I get a chance I'll check out my Watson trt cyp and see what solvents they use.

Theonslaught's picture

Post here lol

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

yes, if you can that would be great. make sure to pm me or somehow let me know what the outcome is. im very interested in knowing myself

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irongame427's picture

Thats a good question that i dont have an exact answer to. i would think the pharm 250 would include ester just like the ugl. But i could be wrong. But I can tell you it would take about 357.14mgs of test e powder so when you subtract the ester you're left with 250mgs of pure test.

Theonslaught's picture

There u go...
Thank u.

WhiteSight's picture

Its not labeled as Test is it? its labeled as test E.. so its accutrate, Test E includes ester..

Theonslaught's picture

What?

You do realize that because ester ur not getting the full mg amount?

Only test base (tne and test suspension) is 100% as mg amount being it's ester less.

Example.

TestP 100mg per ml
It's actually 80mg testosterone ur getting because prop ester.