Next Cycle
I've decided to scrap my winter run after finding out my gear is pretty much bunk. Oh well part of it I guess. First promo I get in on burns me, lol. So I'm gonna start back up probably late spring. Gonna include Tren in this one. It's been about 2 years since I last used Tren, I've used both E and A and always ran it higher than test and had good results with little sides. I'm going with Ace this time around since it's been a while. Here's what I'm thinking. Nothing advanced just like the feedback in this group.
1-10 Prop 50mg ED or 100 EOD
1-10 Tren A 50-75 ED or 150 EOD
1-10 Provi 50mg ED
Ran the numbers on ED vs EOD and the levels are close to the same. There's like a half a milligram fluctuation day to day using EOD.
I've always ran a long ester Test with my Tren and ran Tren around twice the dose of test. My question would be does it need to be that much with Prop? I still like the idea of having Tren bind to more receptors than Test. Also where the hell do you get Prami or Caber domestic? Hardly anyone has it. I mean we got research chems I guess. I didn't need any in the past, but like to have it. That's part of the reason I like the low Test, so there's not much Estro conversion. I still think controlling E2 will keep prolactin down, as long as doses are reasonable.
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You guys have any fear of the needle breaking off? I know slins are pretty damn flexible.
no but i have bent them before. grab a needle and bend it, pretty sure its not gonna break
Well I am Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive. Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound..... So challenge accepted!
Update: twisted that bitch into a pretzel, but couldn't break it. Fail.
LOL, if you could have seen the look on my face first time I pulled one out bent, im sure it was priceless! Especially considering up to that point I though they would just break as well!
Never happened to me in 13/14 years of using 'em.
Good to know, thanks
I don't have as many years as Catalyst but no, no fear at all.
I think 25's are butter can't imagine what a slin is like.
100 times smoother. 30g 1/2 inch is heaven.
Do you heat your oil first? I usually don't.
RustyhookerI warm in the barrel with rice bag. 30 seconds of rice bag in micro is plenty. 2 mins in bag wrap.
Heats not gonna cause much bad effects if you know melting range.
its around 300 degrees for most hormones. between 270-340.
naa never. Making these drugs hot cold over and over again cant be good for the potency. And i found no difference in pip when doing it both ways. my oils go pretty easily thru a 30g.
I know ED is crazy but here is suggestion
Test p 40 ed
Tren A 100ed
Mast p 100mg ed
Winny 50ed split
Or just proviron instead 50mg split day n night
I have been running 50 test, 50 mast p, 50 tren ace ED with a TRT dose of test c for a base and it has been awesome bro. I generally use 28g slins every day except Monday and Thursday when I pin the test c. You can throw in an oral of choice if you like as well. My favorite cycle TBH.
So u use slin to pin ur delts no problem or lumps not to sound like broken record asking same cushion did but I have 29g think it will work if I try it without clogging
I use 28's bro. The 29's are almost impossible to draw through. And yes, the delts take them like a champ. I also use them on my pecks, traps, tri's and have my wife pin my rear delts, I have over 17 weeks now on two separate cycles doing that and have had no serious issues at all.
draw through? No no no, backload them
I did back load yesterday just wrong slin it took forever to pin in delt
I use 29g, they take some effort, heat oils good before backload
You pinned in delts how long did it take did it get all n the muscle I will give it one more shot tomorrow lol and see how it goes
yeah it all goes in, takes about 30-45sec to depress plunger, you just got to squeeze hard....I have never not been able to get oil through a 29g 1/2" slin, trust me it can be done and shouldnt have much problem. I was just using a test 400 through them.
Talk about squeezing hard, I have 1.25" 27's , it takes a minute or two of squeezing but they are nearly pip free. I prefer the 28 slins over the 29's but it is all good.
Yea, I know you are right.
I use a 30 and backload it. Draw with my 21 3cc and then backload the slin pin. They say as you get older you become more paitent. Cause at this age theres noway in hell i could sit there and take the time to draw thru a 28. I dont even have the patience for a 25 lol.
RustyhookerI warm the vial and pretend to be patient. Lol. I saw the pun sellers offer the slin twist off tips. Suck with 23 or 25...pop on a slin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noNCMN-RYtc
RustyhookerNice!!! Thanks
Thanks for telling me bcuz I was trying it was tuff to pin lol I will definitely order sum 28g to give it a go again sounds like a great cycle ESP if u can pin with slin and with no or les pip
I have tried a couple different brands but the 28' easy touch's seem to work the best. They have good draw strength. No matter what you are loading it is kind of slow. I heat up the vials with a rice pack and it makes it go quicker.
Rice pack ? What do u mean
My wife made them a long time ago for little heat compresses. You just basically make a bag out of whatever linen you have available, put a cup or two of rice in it and sew it shut. Microwave it for a minute and a half or so and it will be hot. I warm my vials in it for a couple minutes then draw.
How long are your 28's?
1/2". You can hit your deltoids medial and rear (wife or girlfriend) Tri's and traps all really well with them. Now I should say this was running a cut stack of high concentration. I only need .5 ml, but during my last cycle when I was running just test p and tren a I was doing the same thing up to 1ml. No problem for the most part. A couple of the tren a brands I used did have more swelling than the ones I have now. It seems these MCT based oils agree with me much more than the others.
I love the idea of this cycle with the proviron. I ran 50mg prop ed and 100mg tren a ( It was a little underdosed) last summer and It was a great cycle. Proviron would have made a big difference to having that dht component in the mix. I agree that controlling estrogen will in turn keep prolactin down. He's always worked for me when using 19-Nors. Never once used a dopamine agonist bjt I've always had plenty on hand. I might steal this cycle from you and rjn the same this summer.
As for eod and ed. I did it both ways, couldn't feel any difference at all with eod dosing so I stuck with that.
Yea this is probably what I'm gonna go with. EOD probably. It's either 70 pins or 35, lol.
ED pinning sucks. Especially with gear that causes pip. Didnt take long for me to switch back to eod.
I agree had a huge knot on my flute took up whole cheek out of commission lol then tried delt did them same so I switch back to test I could trust lol now I know why u guys go with only certain srcs u can't just pin everything good thing my dunky didn't explode
Ya man i dont shop around at all. I have my 2 sources I use for oils and thats it. Then i have 2 sources i use for orals and thats it. I know there all good. When i was new at this i would bargain shop and promo shop but nothing sucks worse then getting a bunch of gear that leaves your crippled with pip for a week.
Toughen up buttercup.
lol I'm just now getting some more spots in rotation so it'll be easier for ed pins. Got triceps and lats in rotation now.
Fucking Lats! My first few times pinning them were great but if you end up off target just a little bit they can go pretty bad and end up with a nice lump for a week or two. I have plenty of other spots now that are nowhere near as finicky.
I have been thinking about having my wife hit them from a different angle where she can really get in deep on them and see. Actually tonight might be a good chance to test my theory.
I have a needle phobia when other people do it for me. Seriosuly ill pin myself all day but it hate when other people do it. I instantly start sweating heart starts pounding. I have to do it all myself.
Lol, did you try the forearm like Vike was talking about?
You damn well I did,lol. It didn't really hurt going in and it wasn't bad pip wise but I did retain a freakish amount of fluid on the underside of my forearm. So I haven't messed with that one again. Old spongey boys tren ace made my traps swell up like crazy, I didn't want to go outside for a few days. Looked like quasimodo lmao
RustyhookerI did fine with sex on prop at 30. I had mast prop instead of provi but sounds interesting. I did 30...100..100ed prop/tren a/mast prop. I liked it at 75 ed a lot better. I built up front 50ed since it was my first time.
How many weeks did you run it? And how do you like Mast P vs Provi? I've not used Mast.
RustyhookerI love mast. First ran it 9 weeks. Too long and shutdown sucked. Last time was during taper off eq cycle ran 50/50 tren a/mast p and enjoyed it.
I'm not proficient with tren yet. Fat melts off quickly. Kills my cardio and makes me introverted.