+ 1 a curious question
So I hope im not breaking any rules by posting this and I'll keep it vague an make sure to not mention anyone in particular to be sure...but here's my question I've seen a lot of test come back fake lately...some of themare a surprise but many not (ie var being winny, primo being tren or eq, and even the occasion sdrol as dbol) but one struck me as interesting it was a big lab and their test e came back as cyp or vice versa....that really got me thinking even though both are fairly cheap how many ugls do you suppose have only one of the two but sell it as both...it seems like a no brainer you buy one raw you make one batch and you slap both labels on...it seems to me it'd be one of the less noticed substitutes if you will...again I hope imnot stepping on any toes but I'd love to hear thoughts
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I'm sure it's happening way more then we'd like to believe. I can live with a cheap shot like that since the hormone is the same and the esters very similar but it still sucks. I'm sure that many sources who don't get their Sust250 raws pre mixed are just combining test prop and enanthate. If they normally don't carry test pp or deconate I highly doubt their ordering it just to blend. As far as winny substituted for anavar or any pack knowingly labeled one way and containing a different compound is fucked up.
RustyhookerIf the gear..enanthate for cyp. ....was still properly dosed, clean, and pure I'd care less imo. Gear that's improperly dosed, switched or sub - part is flat garbage. This site is a review site. So members can evaluate and chat on si pages, compare quality and catch dirty sources. Force them to keep up standards by sales and reviews. I too wish there was a 3rd party place to freely test samples with no bias. But this is why reviews and open speech on si pages are great. Posting honest bloods, pictures of gains/losses and honesty is key.
Biggest problem imo, is guys getting weak gear then jump up to grams per week. Then finally score REAL gear and have major issues.
Yup...what brought me to check on this in the first place is I bought some primo and tren hex from a top src..lab maxed it and then sent it for hplc cost me $200 the primo is notta...just oil and the hex is actually a mix of ace and enan...I'm having another member repeat the tests and I'm also ordering two more samples and having them sent to a lab overseas...but until the results are overwhelming I'm not posting a thing and I know if I do the src will do everything to discredit me...it's sad it works that way but I'm hoping 2 lab max tests by 2 users a us pharmacopia test and a European one should cast aside the doubt...
PM me when you get the tests back please brother......... very interested in this.
I will sir.. the first tests were done on 10ml vials of both...I have one more older vial of the hex and 2 or 3 amps of the primo I will send those along with 2 brand new samples (as soon as they arrive) to the testing center in Europe...I'm debating on whether to leave them in the original vials of whether to put them into empties and just tell the lab to provide me with the full analysis on each...the US report was 26pages and very detailed they actually told me what the oil was and everything $200 is pricey but I was getting ready to buy 4-6 10ml vials of each so I'm glad I tested it...I am shocked the primo was just oil though...Again I don't want to make any accusations until the second round of tests come back from Europe but it is a little unsettling
Do you mind telling me where to analyze something on europe?
RustyhookerSorry for your loss but greatly appreciate testing!
Yup but understand I'm not the kind of guy who trusts one labs results or cries to a src before I have my facts straight this the reason for 2 users doing labmax, using 2 licensed sites possibly a third and testing several different batches including both vials and amps I may even pick some up from another src and send it in...I think occasionally bad batches and mistakes happen so I'll run multiple tests
RustyhookerSame route used in chem class. Test several and inspect results.
Yup my wife has allotted me $1000 plus sample costs to get to the bottom of this we would both like to run primo in our summer cycles next yr...any advice for getting the best unbiased results is. Appreciated the third lab we may use is a crime lab my LE buddy has offered to send it in as a "found sample" which means they found it and want to know what it is and it's not directly tied to any case this allows us to find out without getting in trouble...however since its not tied to an arrest or case he said it can take up to 3months for a full analysis as they do found items dead last