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+ 11 Who should/shouldn't be on AAS?

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You all have an opinion. Don't shy away now. In a thread written by IronBlonde yesterday about the ladies, it got me thinking about this again. Aside from the ppl who just flat out don't want to put in the work and think AAS is the answer to a god like body with no effort, who should or shouldn't use AAS?

The bodybuilders
So most of the time when someone questions another's use of gear it's a bodybuilder questioning it. The bodybuilders preach diet and training. Reaching natural potential. Yes yes and yes ,...if the person is a bodybuilder. They need to dial in their diet , train relentlessly completely natural for as long as it takes to meet their potential etc. Fine, I get it. I agree. I don't want to see anyone ruining their endocrine system with premature use and not taking the proper precautions. So, asking the individual their goals is first and foremost IMO.

The athletes
Now, this one is tricky. There will be ppl claiming to be athletes who simply are not. But they easily get weeded out down the line. Let's talk about a fighter for instance. Something brought up in the thread I mentioned earlier raised the point "the athlete knows what they have to do in terms of proper nutrition ,AAS etc." Really? Do you know what proper nutrition for a fighter is? Have you ever set foot in a ring? Fuck, I bet half of the ppl with the opinions couldn't hit a heavy bag for 1:00 straight without absolutely collapsing. Do you know why? We do! We absolutely LOAD UP ON CARBS! High protein ,high fat, high carb diets. Something the stage ready bodybuilder would be freaking about. Then do you know what we do? Let's say I am fighting at light heavyweight (175lbs) and I'm walking around ,training at 202lbs. Guess what I have to do? The next week or 2 of my life is going to suck big fat elephant balls. I have to cut weight for the weigh in. That means starving myself. Do you think I shouldn't be on AAS because I am not eating properly? Fuck you! I'm going to need the performance enhancement now more than ever. You had better believe my opponent is gona be ready to take my head off. So do I just stop using my halo, or Tren because you think I don't need to be on it because my natural potential hasn't been reached? Guess what, you can take that opinion and jam it straight up your ass ,...sideways! Let someone tell me they don't think I should be on AAS because I'm not a bodybuilder when they not only haven't set foot in my shoes, but would get their big asses handed to them if they tried. Sometimes they will even say "omg you are doing it wrong. Who told you to cycle that way? Where did you hear that? That's just wrong! You have no knowledge of AAS." STFU! You don't have the faintest clue how to cycle properly if you were an endurance athlete. My progress can't be assessed by looking in a mirror. Fuckin dip shit! Ok, I got a little emotional about that one. But you get the point.

Fitness models
I don't know of any and don't know what it takes to be one but I'm giving an honorable mention. I suspect they use traditional cycles in short bursts to achieve a chiseled look.

Kids
This one is the tricky one. NOBODY on this site condones the use of AAS in kids. But what about when the kid is in his early 20's, has a fantastic physique, has clearly put in work , and already has experience on stage? Does that mean it's ok? I'm asking sincerely.
This is a debate amongst the moderators and we are seeking a resolution. I want to hear what you have to say. What if they claim to be an athlete, what is the guideline in that case to give advice or not? I'm curious on your
opinions.

Trt
There are the guys who were not feeling so hot, climbing up in age and put on Trt by their doc. They come here to learn about AAS. They discover the things the doctor isn't gona tell them. Maybe they like what they are experiencing and want to venture into new compounds to achieve that god like body. Is that ok? Or because they aren't a friggen bodybuilder they shouldn't be on either? You see the pattern here?

Muscle wasting disease
Now I would hope that nobody is ignorant enough to say these guys/gals shouldn't be on AAS. Clearly they need it. Maybe here to learn more as the Trt guys are. Or maybe to go further and gain that god like physique with cycling. So,....where do we stand? Because a lot of ppl have a lot to say. I'm curious who stands up here.

Power lifters (sorry grrrl)
Now what about these guys/gals? They almost always look "sub par" according to bodybuilding standards. Sometimes they even look fat and out of shape when in reality they would twist a bodybuilder up like a pretzel and catch the punch of the mighty boxer crushing his hand with a squeeze of his grip. They surely put in the work and have every right to use whatever means they can to gain an edge in training. Do they not?

Mostly I want to get an idea of what everyone thinks. Don't hold back. It won't be held against you no matter your view. Give your opinion. It will help the community grow. I'll keep my aggression toward bias bodybuilders to myself. For some reason it's always a bodybuilder with something to say. This is NOT A BODYBUILDING WEBSITE! Get it?

LET ME ADD, i don't have anything against bodybuilders (other than the popular opinion on AAS). Some of my favorite ppl are bodybuilders. Shit all my partners are bodybuilders. Well Trenabolic and big bro King Viking are. Noid is more like me I think. Just doin the damn thing. So I have plenty of ppl here who are bodybuilders that I am fond of. Great guys/gals and I have nothing against them. I have something against the ones who feel superior to others. Acting superior is usually as sign of deep rooted feelings of inferiority! Just sayin. Psych 101!

Catalyst's picture

I've got no answer there mate. One of those scenarios where the phrase "rather you than me" springs to mind!

Nitti's picture

I don't either. But we all need to let out our differences and understand one another better to help us get past this bias we all have.

Catalyst's picture

Here's an example, 24 year old, I posted in his cycle log. I'd give cycle advice to this lad, look at his shape.

https://www.eroids.com/users/soontobeswole

Edit - for some reason can't get the link to work. Look in self pics, username soontobeswole.

Nitti's picture

I can't get that one to work either.

Catalyst's picture

Comes up with a dot at the end, which I think is the problem.

Nitti's picture

Is he deleted?

Catalyst's picture

Don't think so - here's his cycle log. You can see my approach here.

http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/2nd-cycle-advice-0

dooduu2's picture

Don't forget about us guys that just want to look good but better than natural! I would assume this makes up 95% of users. Some of us just want to look good at the beach!

I think kids have no place using. When you become and adult I believe that what you do to your body is your business.

I also hold a not very popular opinion about sports. I think they would be a whole lot more interesting of they allowed aas.

Nitti's picture

Don't forget about us guys that just want to look good but better than natural! I would assume this makes up 95% of users. Some of us just want to look good at the beach!

Now see, most ppl will say you have no right being on. What do you say to that?

robb's picture

That's how I started out, wanting to look better than natural. And to use gear to get to that point is fine by me. Assuming a solid natural base has first been achieved. The added bonus is you could eventually start looking better than most of the other people you see at the gym who are using as well as I find it hard to just maintain, I'm personally always looking to progress now.

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dooduu2's picture

I know. First I'd say there isn't enough actual competitive bodybuilder, athletes and etc to keep these sources alive... So I think most are like me.

Secondly it's my body. I have the right to do with it what I want. Whether it's a body piercing or doing ass. We own our bodies as adults and should be able to do what we want with them as long as it doesn't affect others.

Nitti's picture

doing ass

I like doing ass too! Nothing compares. But try to stay on topic. Keep the horn dog thoughts in the wife day group. J/k

dooduu2's picture

Lol I see what you did there.

WINNING's picture

Lmfaooo.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Haha best autocorrect ever!

Nitti's picture

I also hold a not very popular opinion about sports. I think they would be a whole lot more interesting of they allowed aas.

Ohh don't get it confused. There isn't a single sport on the planet (with real monetary gain) where athletes aren't using PED's. That goes for the NFL, MBL, FIFA, All different combat sports etc. They just know how to stay one step ahead of WADA testing. ;-)
Take that shit to the bank

Catalyst's picture

The future of staying ahead of WADA will be challenging. A drug I worked on that won't hit the market until mid to late 2015 has already had confirmation it can very be tested for and found by WADA, nearly 2 years before it even goes into production.....

That's now becoming the norm believe it or not!

Nitti's picture

Thank you for the input. :-)