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tren a and test

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Weeks 1-8 tren a 125mg eod
Weeks 1-8 test p 100mg eod
1-3 Dbol 50mg Ed
Weeks 1-8 anastrozole .5 e3d
Weeks 1-8 caber .25mg e3d
Pct= trt

Or since I am on trt @ 250mg week, test c

Weeks 1-8 test c 250mgs 2x a week
Weeks 1-8 tren a 100mg eod
Weeks 1-3 Dbol 50mg Ed
Anastrozole and caber same as above

Cycle history
This will be my 5th cycle, last cycle was test c, Deca, anadrol, and test p

Stats
Age 38
Height 5'9
Weight 204lbs
Bodyfat% 11.4% ( was 16% and 235lbs in January, been dieting like hell)

I've been reading different dosages for test p and tren a , some say go low test higher tren, some articles keep both doses equal. So I would appreciate some feed back from the eroids community.
Thanks

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Agreed!................. and thats why you got me to steer you down the right path so you dont waste another fkn decade lol

irongame427's picture

Ya thank god for you, but I'm still pissed i didnt figure out sooner. My spring bulking cycle turned out to be a trt dose. Found out after about 8 weeks that i shut myself down for nothing more then a trt dose. Still made good gains tho cause i eat like a pig but alot was muscle memory cause i was injured over the winter and lost alot of size. But still i hate to think about how much better my results could have been if my gear was legit. Fuck it tho lesson learned. But i could be alot farther along right now if i always had good gear.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Here bro... i just dug this up from the archives.... its from a lot of months back but it will give you some idea of what the Mrs runs pre-comp........... enjoy!! Smile

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VIKING POWER 1 year ago @hrdbdyGRRRL
Really upping the game now... she spent most of yesterday doing posing practice with an ex miss universe to get really polished in that dept... that will be happening now every fortnight for the next 12wks.... she wants this soooooo bad its become more than an obsession.

Also this time its not just nolva for a slight estro crash on the drying out phase.... this time we are going to kill it dead with a nolva/aro/letro combo for 16 days and also A/bombs on the carb loading phase not just to force the loading but for the massive androgen kick for maximum hardness.

Shes @ 8% right now so only 5% to drop without losing any muscle mass and we will be ready to rock n roll.... 2 comps in sept just to test the new routine and make any final adjustments then BOOOOM... universe here we come in october.

6 day on routine in place now with fasted cardio (spin bike) at 4.30am every morning....... 2xbody parts pr day... medium weight mid range reps..... as weeks pass reps will increase to max 20 pump and flush protocol.

Current stack....
Riptropin @ 2iu ed
Primobolan depot @ 300mg wk
Tren Enanthate @ 500mg wk

6 wk out stack revision.....
Riptropin @ 2iu ed

Test prop @ 100 mg ed
Tren ace @ 100 mg ed
Mast prop @ 100 mg ed
Anavar @ 40 mg ed
Winstol @ 40 mg ed

Clen from 8wks out cycled 2wks on 2wks off @120mcgs ed (i know its high but she likes like that)

16 days out... drying protocol with the nolva/aro/letro stack will be introduced

6 days out...... 3 day carb depletion starts (zero carbs) or near dammit lol

3 days out.......3 day carb loading starts with A/bombs @ 100mg ed

Also this time we are going to try something that works for me but will be a pure experiment with suze.... going to try this from next week to see if it works or not or if she can handle the pain.

TNE will be shot into delts tris and bis with slin pins for a synthol type effect...... pumps the muscle up temporarily unlike synthol with the added benefit of the pre/workout boost ...... this one will be good to watch lol.... if it works for her this will happen for 5 days pre comp day purely for the "look".

There you have it!... thats our comp prep right there not including the gym work and killer diet lol.

irongame427's picture

Well fuck me lol. Thats way more gear then I'm on and I'm way heavier then her. No wonder I still look like shit lol. Not only is my gear underdosed my doses are way to low. fuck dude. Now i wanna see your stack.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

This was the result of that cycle bro...........

http://www.eroids.com/pics/2-days-out....-drying-out-nicely

irongame427's picture

I saw this the other day, un fucking believable conditioning. She must have everything dialed in perfect. And this is without the use of diuretics?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Yes........................ and at the moment she is Natural..... 8mth gear free.

irongame427's picture

That's insane. You could honestly give jay cutler pointers. Even with diuretics that guy Always had problems with water on stage.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol.... thats why i showed you this bro so you do the math on what myself or someone the same weight/condition would typically be running pre/comp time..... i never use chemical diuretics or thyroid manipulation drugs and rely on natural methods instead using high dose vitamins and herbals, but some stacks i see from guys getting ready for stage would simply blow your mind and make my stacks look like baby fodder lmao!

irongame427's picture

Damn you really don't use lasix or aldactone or anything like that? That's crazy that your able to get dry enough without it. And it's so much healthier to not messs with that stuff it's worse for you then steroids! Bb are always dying from kidney problems most likely brougjt on from duretic abuse and probably some high Bp.

I knkw your cycles are big, so I can't even imagine what some of these guys are putting into there body. I need you to start designing my cycles. I'm pretty worthless past a certain point.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

If he put his up, I'm pretty sure our PC's would crash.

irongame427's picture

HahHaha I can't even imagine what it looks like.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Question regarding that. I'm not asking for a source, but is there Pharma grade nandrolone? I've seen replicas.

irongame427's picture

Yes sir, you can even find pharm grade npp, its just in a stupid low concentration like 25mg/ml. Only thing you won't find pharm grade is trenbolone or eq but the huge high end international labs that are considered "pharm grade" in their country make it, so its pretty damn close.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Good deal. I knew that about Tren, but not EQ.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Yes there is bro................ PM me.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Sent, thanks.

iFit's picture

You do realize what you've done right???? The Tren Police are going to be out of work. Lol

Excellent points Vik!

MONK's picture

Really look forward to this, would especially love to see a post covering the topic from yourself Vike (if possible).

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Like always i will help out in different forums where and when i can but i certainly wont be listing any cycles or anything specific to what or how i run it bro..... ive running parabolan since i was 23 which i still believe is the superior form of trenbolone (human grade)... that stuff really kicks the shit outa you if you mess with it wrong and fail to treat it with high respect.. i do run run Ace and enanthate, but personally i think HEX is the king of tren.

Once we do start talking about tren and if all i hear is fkn moaning about night sweats and sleepless nights, and "my cardio is fked"... like little girls moaning their pussy smells because they fail to wash the fkn thing!.. i will shut it down again!..... Fuckers wanna run big boy gear they have to fkn behave like men and quit fkn whining about poxy fkn sides.

Tren WILL take you to the edge and beyond............. ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH!!

MONK's picture

Love this shit^^ Smile I'm all in, powered up and ready to soak up every last drop boss!!

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Dickkhead's picture

What would you recommend bro?

irongame427's picture

X2. Prop var is the simplest yet incredibly effective cutting cycle. I'm on it right now and like you said the var really does curb my appetite. Great vascualrity hardness and stregnth gains were good but my cals are really low at this point. 100mg prop eod and 50-100mg var depending on the lab and youre good.

Dickkhead's picture

So, what is it exactly that you want to accomplish in those short 8 weeks? Are we cutting into single digits?
I see the Test, I see we're breaking out the Tren, but I don't see any Mast so I'm not sure what u r doing.

pacop's picture

Yeah,im trying to cut into single digits, and gain back some strength that I've lost in the last 7 months. I thought about Mast, but I have never used tren or mast before. I didn't want to use 2 new compounds at the same time.

Thanks

Dickkhead's picture

Well, the dbol doesn't belong in there then and all the more if we are running test prop. You are certain about the Tren?

pacop's picture

I'm pretty sure about the tren. I already have some on hand, along with test prop. And you're right the dbol doesn't belong in there. So, I'll drop the dbol.

Dickkhead's picture

Follow Catalyst up top. He's got the best suggestion.

pacop's picture

I agree, going with that, to start!

SL's picture

I would run mast before tren

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