HGH/Test Prop/Anavar/Proviron Cycle with other questions...regarding thyroid meds/clen...
Questions:
1: I ordered PT-141 and Melanotan II and they both came in the same box, both small clear vials and both yellow tops. Anyone have any idea in the world how can I can tell the difference between each? I bought 10 vials and wanted to use some, obviously for tanning (which definitely works), and the other for sex(which works as well, well they both work for sex), but I don't want to OD on the Melanotan II...could really use some help...not sure if anyone though can even answer this, but figured it was worth the shot...
2: I also ordered 1000IU of the yellow top HGH. I saw a serum test done for the HGH from the site but I wanted to get one of my own done. Anyone have an idea how I can go about that. Is there an online site where I can get a doctor's order then take it to a local lab, etc, just not sure how the process works.
3: Next, I have T3, T4, and clenbuterol on hand and from what I've read, most are saying go with the T4 and the HGH(which I have been doing, 100mcg), but I was wondering if I could cycle in the T3(25 mcg) for a few weeks then Clen(40-120 mcg) for a few weeks, switching back and forth to see some good fat burning. Any thoughts?
Lastly, I have already been taking blue top HGH for about a 3 weeks or so now, at about 5 IU a day, split into two doses, morning and afternoon, subq(is there any legit info regarding subq versus IM)...
I'm 33, 6'3", 250 lbs, about 15-18 percent body fat, and I from what I've ready 5 IU is a good dose but was wonderin' if anyone had any other insight if I should go up in dose with the HGH or keep it there for the next 5 or 6 months, so far I wouldn't say I haven't noticed any dramatic results, but then again, nor did I expect to...
Also just started test prop 50 mg ed, Anavar 60 mg ed, Proviron 25-50 mg ed, (could I also throw dbol in for about 2-3 weeks to really jumpstart it, or would that be overboard?) going to run it for about 10 weeks. I'd love to drop some serious body fat, while putting up some good strength/muscle numbers, but for the most part, the muscle and strength are there, so I guess the ultimate goal is the bodyfat and the benefits of the HGH from an overall health perspective mostly focusing on bodyfat reduction, etc....With regards to the prop and orals, I'm trying out a mostly oral cycle to see the difference between my last test prop, tren ace, masteron blitz, which was pretty intense, with some sides, but not so so bad; however, I'm hoping with this new cycle the sides will be at a minimum, any opinions?
Also, my wife is on HGH 1-2 IU daily, she's 39, 125 lbs, not sure of her body fat, but she's in good shape, she's also on primo at the moment, and we were wondering if 1-2IU HGH is a good dose for her too, and from what I've read, it is, but again, any insight would be much appreciated. She's also using the same T4 combo, with the possibly of throwing in the T3/Clen like up above...
Thanks for any help!
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I appreciate the advice, and I apologize if it sounded ignorant at all, but that wasn't really my intention. I'll stay clear of the thyroid meds and clen and stick with the HGH, Test, Ana, and Proviron. I wasn't trying to just mix and match tons of things together, I was honestly just trying to get some worthwhile advice/critique of what I was thinking with regards to the gear that I have. Not sure why any of what I posted would piss anyone off but to the ones that it didn't piss off I appreciate it and I'm not sure why saying "throw in" is such a red flag but c'est la vie. Also, as another update, I plan on getting my HGH and IGF-1 tested within the next week or so, so I'll post results from two different sources to see what the serum levels look like.
Bro,
I cannot speak for everybody on the thread, but I seriously doubt if anyone including myself is or got "pissed off." It's not like you just joined eroids yesterday and don't have any idea how the site works.
Instead of saying - Hey guys here are my stats, I wanna cut, this is my cycle history - what do you advise? That would have been what most people would do. What did you do?
You said:
So, you were already taking thyroid meds, you were planning on 10 weeks of an oral anabolic - var - and you did this without asking anybody here - but what would we know? You got your whole cycle up and running and then you post asking questions beginning with a question on chemical tanning LOL and you seriously question why the reaction was along the lines of WTF?
Bro, you don't design cycles around the "gear that you have" - you figure out where your at, you establish goals and then you buy "the gear that you need."
Anyways, I'm really not trying to flame or yell at you, just share with you that we do have a process to help members based on their stats, priors, and goals to design appropriate cycles. If you are "already on" when you post it kind of circumvents the whole idea.
Wishing you the best,
GearHead
P.S. When you get a chance, please update your stats in your profile. Thanks, bro.
P.P.S. This is what happens when you run cycles focused on oral steroids or run them too long look at the pictures. Ten weeks of var is a no go bro.
(http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/too-much-oral-...)
Very well put and I definitely agree with you...I did couple the 100 mcg of T4 with the HGH and have been on that alone for a few weeks now, but only within the last week did I start the anabolics. It also makes sense logically to work backwards and plan goals, etc, then focus on what I need to reach those goals. I guess, I got off on a tangent writing about everything that is going on or within reach of me at the moment rather than simplifying the process and focusing on the cycle/hgh, thyroid meds/clen, and melanotan as all different subjects instead of putting them entirely into one thread. So from here, I'm good with focusing on the cycle/HGH, and any insight to it would be great. I wrote up my stats in my profile and wrote briefly about the last cycle I did. For this particular cycle, I'm still at about 250 lbs, between 15-18% BF, and would like to cut to about 230 within, what I thought was a good time frame of 10 weeks, am now inquiring if I should switch it to about 8 weeks, after what you said, still sticking with the HGH, Test Prop, Anavar, and Proviron. Not sure if I mentioned it before either, but I've never done any oral steroids before. Regardless, this is where I'm at and I appreciate any and all help. If you need me to break down any other information, I can do that, but with regards to diet and what not too, when I need it to be on point, it is. Thanks GearHead for taking the time....
Bro, that isn't how the process works. U R still coming to us announcing what u r gonna do. What other reaction from me do you expect other than - have fun! Be safe!
Ok thanks man, will do..;)
I'm still waiting for my surprise or unexpected ending with the OP.
What kind of surprise ya lookin' for?!? ;)
Deus ex machina is usually frowned on as stylistic laziness on the part of the author. There should be an appropriately laid out dénouement.
Yes, but most shows rely entirely on it now days and dénouement takes talent, skill and effort.
I'm still disappointed in this case, but what else is new...
This is the classic case of the OP has his chemicals and he's gonna use them somehow come hell or high water whether or not they are the right chemicals is not a factor for the OP. Same old same old. It's always disappointing, I know, bro.
No it's really not, and why would they be the "wrong" chemicals as it is...Options aren't an issue in this case...
Do whatever you think is best, bro. I'm out. It's good you put it in the cycle logs section. You just need to finish filling out the table. I think you will get a fresh perspective there. I promise not to bother you there either.
I got a better idea then fucking with clen that can potentially cause heart problems and same with t3 which spikes your levels to dangerous highs and is also bad for your heart. Diet and cardio. We would be glad to help out with that, but fuck those two drugs. Id rather eat cleaner and do more cardio then mess with those drugs.
Prop, Var, and Proviron sounds like a solid cycle for you. Might want to have some adex or aromasin on hand, usually a higher bf% means more problems with estrogen. Definitely NO dbol! That makes no sense with what your goals are.
I wouldn't mess with the thyroid meds or any of that. You can easily get below 10% bf just with diet an exercise. Things like t3/t4 and clen should only be used by competitors in contest prep who are already very low body fat. That's my opinion at least...
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(u caved)
If nobody gives him any guidance he could just use all the compounds he listed and totally fuck up his thyroid for life. Nobody even really explained why nobody would help him.
Everyone preaches safety here, but when you guys see something wrong with a cycle plan you just tell them that nobody will help or call them a troll???
Bro, it's a matter of experience and carefully reading the post. When an OP uses words like "throw in" in reference to steroids, being non-responsive is an option. You are trying to resolve this deus ex machina.
So if they use the phrase "throw in", then refuse to help them. Got it.
Wow.......
HuH HuM!.............. if they want to use backstreet terminology they can choose another site.
No disrespect, but refusing to help him because of one phrase he used just seems completely absurd. It seems very insignificant in the big scheme of things (like his safety!).
Look!...... its like this son, i realise you are 22yrs old and full of fire wanting to start shit with a Moderator!.. but the thing is i will not change the cycle forum protocol just to fucking suit you!!.... you need to learn to read posts and threads before flapping your young fucking lips at me.
Butt heads with me one more time and lets see the outcome.
I just don't understand the hostility. Sorry I will stay out of the forums.
Bro, dang, a little bit about internet etiquette - when a moderator corrects you - that is the end of the conversation. Having to get the last word is really not such a good idea.
Whoa, this has gotten ridiculously out of hand....does this site sell beer too bc we all need one...;)
Bro, please don't feel that this is all directed at you because it's not. Or, even that you have "caused" a problem because that's plain ridiculous. The website runs a little bit like a corporate organization and in a way the MODs sometimes function and react like your boss at work with the authority to fire you.
I guess it's just that I come on here to unwind from work; work today consisted of a really bad uterine prolapse post birth of which I had to put it allll back in, y'all would never look at a vagina the same again...;) regardless, just wanted some insight to a few things, no "firings" necessary..;)
are you a doctor?
shit, sounds like a Saturday night at my house, lmao...
Honestly, I had no idea it was "backstreet terminology..." I was just casually typing and, again, in all honesty, I've probably done TOOOOOO much reading at this point, my brain is on overload with the plethora of information out there; especially when it seems like just when you've figured out the right protocol, one stumbles onto conflicting information....
The OP may fit this bill.
And we have a winner!!
GearHead, come forward and collect your prize money!
I haven't touched any of thyroid meds including the clen, other than the T4 along with the HGH because I had found several articles on how the two work well together, the clen and t3 were just afterthoughts and not musts at all. I haven't come close to touching them yet. So yeah, I know it looks like a lot being all thrown into one post, but I really have done quite a bit of reading on this but just wanted some insight with regards to the HGH dosage, testing, and how my anabolic cycle looks....As far as cycles go, I've done everything from Test(every type), Deca, Tren Acetate, Masteron, Winstrol, Dianabol, etc, so I'm not new to this, nor is my diet or gym routine in need of any help. I just have never done HGH before and wanted some insight regarding the T4 with it, what blood tests to get done, and if The Test Prop, Anavar, Proviron cycle looked alright to run along side the HGH. The reason I added in the proviron was for it working well with Test to free up more test by working with the SHBG and of course, it's boost in libido. Regardless, I know it's a lot of information to be thrown out all at once, but again, I'm just looking for some solid advice regarding the original post I listed, that's all..and definitely don't feel like you have to answer every single question, I'll take bits and pieces if that's all you can give...Thanks again...
so if your diet and workout routine dont need any help whats with all the thyroid, clen stuff? people dont run that stuff unless trying to cut fat. lets see your diet? and instead of listing the compounds you have done why dont you list the cycles so we can see how you put them together. running a bunch of compounds doesnt mean you know what your doing....oh and hit the reply icon on the right hand side so we can follow who your talking to.
This has to be a joke.
Bro,
A site MOD has just bowed out of this thread (on the bottom). Don't get your hopes up for much help here. Many in the community will follow his cue. Although my prediction is that someone will cave.
GearHead
RustyhookerYou have several brand new forums all at one time.
Did you even research? Sure looks like you did not!
This is so fucked I'd be tempted to call troll tbh.
Your thyroid manipulation and clen use are of huge concern. Bad move and you're playing with fire (hence the "road to hell").
You've got way too much going on here, especially since we have no idea what your previous cycles and compound use is. We need that to help. Also, what are your goals here?
lol, geeze, it's that bad? I thought my Test/Tren/Mast was bad, I just figured a Test/Anavar/Proviron wouldn't be nearly as rough...I have tons of things on hand, so if you have any inside info, I'd be more than open to hearing it...
Ever heard the song "Road to Hell"........... thats were you're headed with the cocktail of shit you have listed up top!.....
Im out.