posted Fri, 07/11/2014 - 15:06
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Currently injecting 350 test cyp bi-weekly for the last couple months and on 350 weekly prior to that....the increase has increased my acne/bacne and want to know if theres any topical otc medication that is favorable to clear this up that works for most???
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I agree with every thing everyone is telling you. But especially irongame. Ive tried everything mentioned. The one thing i havent read that worked for me was switching from an oil carrier to ethyl oleate. My skin dosent get as oily either.
Try laying in the tanning bed for 3 minutes every few days. Also C.O. Bigelow skin tonic. I use 200 cyp a week and it has made huge changes along with showering before bed and in the am. I have my wife wash my back at night then apply the bigelow with a cotton pad after I dry off. hope this helps.
I had horrible back and chest acne from tren, thought it would never go away. Tried every topical OTC product rigorously with no avail before going to the Derm. Got put on doxicycline, just an anti biotic. Took about a month to really work but has completely cured my acne. A few bumps here and there but before it looked like I was sprayed with a buck shot of pepperonis. Wouldn't even wear tank tops in public
Lemme ask you this, did you notice an increase in acne once you started injecting bi weekly instead kid weekly? The dosing protocol leads me to believe based off the half life you're on quite the hormonal roller coaster. Your shoot a bunch and levels peak in a few days then steadily decline to almost nothing by the time you take your next shot. A major cause of acne is hormonal fluctuations which is why we try to keep blood levels as stable as possible. This helps avoid certain some side effects including acne.
Now for a treatment. Grab a good benzoyl peroxide wash, it's better then salicylic acid in my experience, and believe me, I have an extensive amount of horrible first hand experience with acne. And them get a spot treatment, 10% benzl peroxide is the strongest and most effective OTC. So scrub twice a day with the wash, rinse it and dry off then apply the spot treatment to the existing spots. Usually works pretty good for me .
Then option is if that doesn't help then goin to the derm, they will probably give you tropical retinoids like diffiren, retin-a or tazorac. They take a very long time to start working, roughy 4 months and 6 for full benifits, and they don't even always work. In my experience it was a waste of 6 months an it turned my mild- moderate acne into severe acne. My skin just didn't like retinoids , and I stuck it out long enogh. They might also give you antibiotics which work well for some and don't work for others . In my experience these treatments work Bette for steroid induced acne as opposed to just normal acne. Let me knkw if you have more questo
Yes I did have an increase after doubling my doseage and sound like its exactly what is going on. Im on test cyp so the half isnt an issue , I think, but im peaking 24hrs after injection then 2 days later another injection and soo on....the positive results are outweighing the ache negatives so I will try the 10pct benzoil peroxide because think its manageable.
I appreciate your insight and advise ! Thank you
woah wait, I thought you mean your injecting 350mgs every other week, like a TRT dose. You cant just stay on steroids forever. We call this cycling for a reason, it means you stay on for 8-16 weeks typically then you come off. You've been on between 350 and 700mgs a week for way to long man. Do you know theres note side effects then just cosmetic ones that high levels of testosterone for an extended period of time cause? Like hardening of the arteries, LVH, and many more. You need to stop this and go to a doctor. If your test levels are actually low then he will prescribe TRT. You don't know how to do it yourself. A trt dose is like 200mgs ew max, alot of times its significatlnly less then this. You need to go get blood work and see whats going on with your body. Your estrogens probably sky high, your lipid profile probably doesnt look good, there so many things wrong with this. You need to either come off the steroids soyour levels crash then go to a doctor and get on trt through him, or you need to drop our dose down to an acceptable level 150mgs ew, and go to the doc and tell him what you've been doing.
Got checked out originally and 250 was prescribed originally weekly which got my numbers way up from low to above acceptable and took it upon myself to double the dosage with the only negative side being moderate acne. Done having kids so not an issue and will be goi g back to original cruise soon but not giving it up all together. Its oil and not pill so my liver function isnt jeopardized as much right? The long term risks remain to be seen but short term its been benificial.
My insurance sucks terribly so constant blood work and dr visits are costly so I have looked for advise from veterans like yourself with no agenda and without clinical malpractice agendas ! Advise is taken and calculated after long thought and appreciated!!!
No you typically don't risk the liver problems imjectables. With the orals they alter the structure of the molecule to make them orally active but it causes stress to the liver . Won't get into the science behind it but in simple terms they add someting to make the liver unable to break it down during first pass metabolism.
So back to your doses, you've been on a high dose now for to long, it's time to drop back down to your trt dose for an extended period of time. And remeber the amount of time you spend on a cycle dose is the amount of time you need to spend on a trt or "cruise" dose to give your body time to rest and recover. And acne and infertility are just one of the many potential side effects steroids can cause. And they are also the least harmful side effects. There's a lot of others you need to worry about. As for your blood work go to privatelabsmd.com I think it is. Get the female hormone panel for 60 bucks . It has everything general health wise except lipids which I would suggest you also add. Then you just bring it to a labcorb or other lab near you and they do the bloods and send it to you through email very quicky. You doctor or insurance will never find out. Your trt dose will put you in high normal test levels which is still great for making gains.
Thank you for your educated and well thought out comments, commentary and suggestions! I know when I ask a question on eroids I set myself up for scrutiny but will get the "real" talk and not a biased opinion! Time to start the face and back wash and tone back on the testosterone! !!! Thanks for everything Irongame427!!!
Just started taking the cyp about 6months ago and prior to that nothing but stalled out on gains and" half- assed" my workouts and nutrition. Decided to start on low dose of test and was a positive choice. I was about 170lbs then gained about 15lbs since of solid muscle and leaned up well.im 43yrs old
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So all you're taking is test? Nothing else?
Gotcha!....test cyp is the only thing and reluctant to try others concidering the sides ( estrogen, managing anger, shrinking nuts, ect) the testosterone cyp seems like the wisest and best in my case with limited sides (acne/bacne).....after 6months of use im definately a novice in the roid world and through my research this was the best fit and no regrets!
My goal , like most, is to get bigger, lift more, get lean and look and feel better. Im well on my way to just that! ....is there any stack suggestions, based on the limited info, that an entry level guy can get to enhance my workouts and results?
My bench has increased about 35pct and doubled reps since starting! All other workouts are similar in increases. My physical transformation is very noticable and state of mind is what I concider level headed. Anger has been an issue in the past and there are plenty of "victims" along the way to vouch for that!!! Haha so is there anything out there that wont bring out that side?
Sounds like you've been on a long time... You're gonna have to fill in the blanks here. Stats cycles goals and what all are you on