posted Wed, 06/18/2014 - 16:45
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Hcg for short cycle?
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Stats:
Age: 26
Height: 6'
Weight: 192
Cycle history, one cycle of test and dbol
Want to run a simple 8 week cycle of test prop and tbol. Goal is lean gains, just got my body fat and lifts to a good level don't need to get bloated and watery. Would using hcg for a short 8 week cycle be pointless, or would it still help in recovery.
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Personally I would keep an eye on your balls and if they start to shrink use it. Or just do the 10 day blast before pct. that's probably what I would do in this situation.
If they shrink use it at what 250 twice a week for how long?
No if they get to the point where they have shunk already the 250Ius twice a week protocol won't do much. My last cycle I didn't have hcg from the start and started it halfway through the cycle after they had already shrunk a little and I had to blast like750-1000iu eod for a few days before backing down 250iu twice a week.
I always find this interesting as my balls have never changed on any cycle, not even the one I never recovered from, not even after a couple months of PCT and blood tests came back at 100, no test in me balls plump as can be. I would have liked for them to shrink so my dick would have looked bigger but my high expectations never happened.
AnonFuck you're lucky. Mine fluctuates like crazy. I'm one of those guys who like them getting rubbed while humping. Nothing worse then wifey giggling when grabbing them and when I ask what she's giggling at she says "Nothing" needless to say I run HCG at first sign of shrinkage.
Lol it sucks whe they shrink man, I wish I had you problem and mine didnt shrink. Not only so they get smaller, they don't hang low they like they normally do. Mine don't get that small tho I can't think of anything to compare them to but they don't turn into rasins like some guys. Everytime I come off gear im always like ohh yaa I forgot you guys where this big lol.
I actually believe the reason why they don't hang low is cause your not producing lh or sperm anymore so your body doesn't need to have them lower anymore to keep the sperm a little cooler temperature. I could very well be wrong but I feel like I remember reading rhat
well either way it sucks lol. I guess it does make my dick look bigger but i don't want girls assuming i got baby size balls.
It's always nice though when they can get both in their mouth as opposed to one.
HahHaha that's true. I just wish they still hung down when there shrunken lol. It just doesn't look good.
I feel ya, after being married and having three kids, I don't need my balls anyways.
If you've been married as long as me your wife carries your balls in her purse. Or at least that's how she acts
6 years been together 11, she lets me play with them every once and a while.
Ya man your good then. Me I can't really be saying hey there normally full size I'm just on steroids right now. Trying to keep that on the down low. But so far noones said anything.
lol, make a habit of putting you balls on display? haha
Lol I mean if a girls blowing me i can't really hide them.
She should be happy she can get a dick and both balls in her mouth
Ha! The San Francisco treat!
and he should be ashamed, bahaha... just playin Iron
Just tell her to blow harder.....I'll let that one sink in...lol
Lol at the end of the day I could care less what some slut I just met two hours ago thinks about my balls. She will be replaced the next night anways.
haha, I might take some just for the money shots.
Smaller potatoes make the meat look bigger Hahah
Im TRT and never messed with Hcg, but I can tell you from what i know about TRT I wish I had used Hcg. it should help with recovery. like prodigal said it could raise estro so have a AI plan in place. now lay out your cycle so we can see what your plan is, including Hcg and Ai protocol.
Ya I think it can only help, really don't wanna be on trt for awhile. But cycle is as follows
Week 1-8 Test prop at 150 mg EOD
Week 1-6 tbol at 50 mg Ed
Week 1-8Adex ED at small dose ( like it ED personally found it to be easier to control dose that way)
PCT: ( three days after last pin)
Week 8-12 clomid at 100/100/50/50
Week 8-12 nolva at 40/40/20/20
Week 8-12 aro at 12.5
I would say cycle looks good, I wouldnt think that with this cycle youll need to run aro that high for PCT, or for that long, but im not really sure what they are advising nowadays.
I'm on the fence with aromasin during pct. I've done sooo much reading on it and there's so many conflicting answers. And if you think about it, on 750mgs of test 6.25mgs ed had me in normal range, what's gonna happen if I take that same dose with literally zero test in my body that converting to estrogen? I'm obviously gonna have some estrogen from the post cycle rebound but I would think it wouldn't even come close to the amout I had in 750mgs of test. I just feel like it's gonna crash my estrogen. I'm not sure though maybe I don't fully understand the mechanism correctly?
well thats why im saying it seems to much and to long. if I where running this cycle I would plan for a more conservative dose at 6.25mg/d for a few weeks then probably 6.25mg/EOD for 1 week. But I also know what crashed estro feels like on me and I would adjust accordingly.
But also keep in mind I dont have extensive experience with PCT as im TRT. I would take into consideration any advice giving by vets that have ran many PCT's
AnonIt may be a bit over kill. But you're looking at this a lil skewed. You're young. You should without any evidence that you're hpta is already damaged have a healthy axis. So if all HCG and a proper pct protocol is going to do at best is keep your hpta healthy and at worse elevate your estrogen(which is why Aro goes in every pct with HCG to combat the E2 rise) then I'd say this. Why not use it? Use it properly and at a modest dosage and I don't see a problem. But yes to some they would definitely say it's overkill. I'm not one of those.
Makes sense thank you