Help me plan my cycle! dieted like crazy now its time for the reward.
Hey guys need help planning my next cycle. Im 6 foot, 200 lbs, about 9-10 % body fat. Have done two real cycles prior to this,( couple ph cycle before when I was young and dumb) first was 12 weeks at Test e 500 a week, second was test E 500-600 a week, 1-test cyp at 500 a week with superdrol finisher I got up to almost 245 and realized I looked bad with my shirt off, big no doubt, but not a bodybuilders body. I am finishing up an almost 4 month very meticulous cut. I went from 225 and fat to 200 with 6 pack and serratus showing. Very hard work but it needed to be done, I finally sacked up and realized Its what I needed to do, I decided that Im going to get down to under 10 % body fat and Idc if my muscles fall off its what need to be done! used clen, yohimbine and ephedrine only, been off cycle and fully recovered for about 6 months now, I trained hard, dieted smart and look good, however now its time to put the muscle back on! I just did all this work and am never planning on letting myself get too fat at the expense of muscle, I am trying to create a cycle that will put on nice lean muscle and keep the fat away. diet will be at about 300-500 over maintenance, 20% fat, 1.5-2 grams of protein and the rest carbs. HIIT cardio and a couple low intensity steady state cardio post workout sessions. Obv will be using test, but thinking about EQ? Dbol is an option but I really like to retain all of my gains, I dont care how big I get if i am going to lose it all after the cycle ( given proper PCT and diet and training) water and bloat is not appealing to me at this stage, want to look lean and hard, but want to pack on more muscle.(dont we all).
P.s. Besides an ego thing, which was my problem being a skinny ass kid all threw hs,and love seeing the scale go up and filling out shirts, whats the point of mass gaining cycle, as in water retention and fat mass along with muscle gain? Is it really all just our egos? I mean whats the point if you are going to lose all your "gains" or "water" when you come off?
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BIGBOY1234HRT? Lol You need to get on a cycle of groceries bro.
another one who cant face the facts that be has been juicing more then likely since 18, and has nothing to show for it except a lighter wallet.
Lost cause he wouldn't even comment back to me guess my answers was to much truth for him lol
thats the thing I notice most.
TropicanaJuiceI mean god damn, lets be honest whether you juice at 18, 25 or 32 you will probably be ending up on HRT, I understand you should let your body fully develop before altering your hormones, however I seriously doubt 3 years or 5 years are going to make that much of a difference, steroids have side effects, limiting them, being caution about dosages, fully recovering and blood work, regardless of age is what this site should be about. Helping others with cycle and being smart, I already have done cycles and plan on doing more to further my bodybuilding.
are you kidding me? when I was 18 I was a baby compared to what I am now and im only 26. I was scared to start a cycle at this age. If I would have done a cycle at 18 I would be royally screwed up, like a lot of my friends are. Do some research bro. You aren't even a man yet.
Just because you don't like what you're hearing, doesn't make it untrue. Spend some time searching eroids about aas use for those under 25 and the long term results. Search the internet as well. This isn't a debatable topic. You will damage your system and there are many consequences to that. If you want to learn the hard way and not by learning from the mistakes of others, then your on your own. Best of luck to you.
TropicanaJuiceDamage what? My hpta? That's why I get bloods I always recover. I don't think 2 years would make things better. Not to mention someone my age can recover from shutdown a lot easier than someone who is 35, so if anything the damage will be much easier reversible now
Bye.
TropicanaJuiceThe recommend age to wait to cycle is 25, I'm almost 23, do you really think 2 years is gonna make a difference? I'm smart about, I get blood pre mid and post, always use the right pct and ask for advice, I'm gonna do this no matter what lol I hate the "young" talk like others haven't been in my shoes before, I'm looking for help for something I'm already planning on doing not to be lectured, yes I'm young but really 2 years I doubt will make a difference with proper cycle and pct
you talk about gains, I looked at your pics, even at your bf I see ZERO definition so it looks like your cycles were better spent on food and a better workout plan. Sorry I had to be the one to say it but the truth is much better then fiction. Drop the AAS son and work on your diet, Learn to benchpress the fridge and pinning grams of protein not test.
TropicanaJuiceThose pics are from when I was fat, I agree no definition, that's why I have spent 4 months cutting. My diet has been on point, I track every single calorie that goes in my mouth
talking about the newer ones, if that is still fat then you are an anerexic. Still, no AAS, tighten up your diet.
Then go do it off this site. We will not help u hurt yourself. You young guys just don't get it. I was young to and thought I knew everything omg I look back now and I am blown away by how little I knew of anything. My dad was a harass on me and I look back now and I deserved it. So tough love to u stop now or get off the site.
TropicanaJuiceWhat is the difference between me doin it and you doin it?
There several reasons why one my hormones and endocrine system has fully matured. Big one right there . Two at your age u don't need steroids u are running a cycle of natty test guys like me would kill for. Three I spent years building a base till I maxed out all natural and then and only then did I use small cycles to help me get past my genetic potential I had become stuck after years of progress
made me laugh
TropicanaJuiceYoungER DumbER I guess
shoxingbiceps17Being 21, no one will give you advice on using AAS. Best bet is your diet and training. Ill let someone else chime in with advice regarding that aspect
Stats
Age: 21
Height: 6 foot
Weight: 200
BF: 10
Too young. I hope you have not already screwed yourself up.