posted Wed, 05/07/2014 - 15:27
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Dirty Bulker, looking to gain at least 20lbs.
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Running this cycle to try and bulk up as much as possible. The only thing I am unsure about is whether it is ok to run two kickers. I was only going to use test prop for a kick for the first 4 weeks, but I was wondering If adding dbol to the test prop kickstart would be too much. I love dbol but I also love test lol. This cycle will also obv be followed up with a 4 week PCT of the standard Nolva and Clomid dosing and Aromasin on hand for sides.
5'6
220lbs
7% bf
Heres my cycle.
thanks for any input.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Deca Durabolin | Test Prop (EOD) | PCT(Clomid/Nolva) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 300mg | 125mg | |
| 2 | 600mg | 300mg | 125mg | |
| 3 | 600mg | 300mg | 125mg | |
| 4 | 600mg | 300mg | 125mg | |
| 5 | 600mg | 300mg | ||
| 6 | 600mg | 300mg | ||
| 7 | 600mg | 300mg | ||
| 8 | 600mg | 300mg | ||
| 9 | 600mg | 300mg | ||
| 10 | 600mg | 300mg | ||
| 11 | 600mg | |||
| 12 | 600mg | |||
| 13 | ||||
| 14 | 100/40 | |||
| 15 | 100/40 | |||
| 16 | 50/20 | |||
| 17 | 50/20 |
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Bro, I was looking thru your previous cycles. Have u run deca before? Drop the deca in week 10, run the test out. U r not running enough test to cover 400 deca - if u have done this before without a problem, that's one scenario, if not, the cookie cutter safe standard approach is 2:1 Test to deca which is what I would suggest to you if this is your first deca run. No bro, u don't need two kickers. My pref would be to run the dbol. Please take the time to put the ancillaries and the PCT into the log for us pea brains.
If u keep estro managed u should not need caber, but if this is your first deca run I would have it - Tren and deca are 19-nors but way different chemicals - u cannot judge your reaction to deca from a tren experience. The aro "on hand" is nice bro, but u really need to be tight with the E2 with deca. If u r a deca vet then u know all this . . .
Ok thanks for that info. This will be my first deca run. I've never actually had to run more than 500mg/wk of test. I heard about that 2:1 dosing but I thought as long as you ran more test than deca ED would not be an issue. Do I have to run that much test? I ran 500mg/wk of test e and 400mg/wk of tren e and had no libido issues or gyno. Both 19-nor, does deca shut you down harder than tren??
How does test 600 deca 300 grab u? Same weekly total, different mix. My only concern is that it's your first run and we don't know how you will respond to deca. Deca is Nandrolone decanoate. Nandrolone is 19-nortestosterone - pure. Tren is a derivative of nandrolone. You should do well with deca at 300. You have plenty of cycles ahead of you to tweek this. Why not play it safe the first time around? I don't know that deca is a harder shutdown than tren, but decanoate is certainly a longer ester than enanthate by like 4 days - takes a bit longer to clear. With Tren at 400 u could have run Test at 200 and provi at 50 mg / day and had similar results.
Boom once again bro u are on top of the game solid advice here
600 test and 300 deca sounds like a good idea. I'd like to see how I react to test over 500 a week. Wow I didn't know that about tren and deca. I always thought they were similar compounds. Thanks for your advice!!
A word of practical advice: U r gonna be running "Deca Joint Joy" as some of us affectionately think of it. I know u r young - resist the temptation to set new PR's while on cycle esp on exercises that stress delicate muscles tendons and ligaments like those in your shoulders on the flat bench . . . if u strain something . . . the deca is gonna mask the injury . . . super heavy is fine with adequate warm up - just no one rep maxes
X2.
If you haven't run deca before follow the 2:1 test:deca ratio to lower the likelihood of problems with ed etc.
RustyhookerNice to see mass monsters gettin dirty. Dudes yoked!