posted Mon, 08/19/2013 - 15:47
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Next cycle planning any advice would be great!
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Just looking for as much advice I can get regarding these compounds. I'd love to hear peoples experiences with any of these. I'm sure some of my dosages and timing might be off here.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | EQ | Mast E | Aromasin (if needed) | PCT (Nolva) | PCT (Clomid) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 2 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 3 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 6 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 7 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 8 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 9 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 10 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 11 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 12 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 13 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 14 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 15 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 16 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 17 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 18 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 19 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 20 | 500mg | 600mg | 400mg | 25mg | ||
| 21 | 500mg | 25mg | ||||
| 22 | 500mg | 25mg | ||||
| 23 | ||||||
| 24 | 40mg | 100mg | ||||
| 25 | 40mg | 100mg | ||||
| 26 | 20mg | 50mg | ||||
| 27 | 20mg | 50mg | ||||
| 28 |
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You gonna use HCG?
Ehh probably not.
You may want to. Those aren't really harsh compounds, but its a long run. Its worth the investment, you get everything at once and its pretty cheap to run. You shouldn't need anywhere near the 25mg of Aro, especially with the Masteron. 6.25mg should be fine, 12.5mg at the most. Have you thought of running your Aro into PCT, or at least through the time off?
I have heard of people running aro into the PCT but why not just use Nolva, its an anti e also. I may run the HCG because I am worried that it is too long of a cycle. I'm not sure at all how to use HCG though, don't you need bacteriostatic water? Should the HCG be run during the cycle or just along with PCT? I'm a bit short on money lol so I would rather order it mid cycle. If I don't use HCG is there a good chance that my body will not bounce back and make natural test?
You can go without the HCG and bounce back with a standard PCT. HCG simply makes it "easier" by keeping the testicles partially functioning. Yes, you mix it with bac water. Don't use it during PCT as its a synthetic LH and will suppress natural LH production. 500-1,000iu per week, split e3d/e4d will do just fine. No Nolva is not an anti e, many people think that, it DOES NOT lower estrogen. It binds to the receptors in breast tissue preventing estrogen from binding and forming lumps/tissue.
AnonDoses look good to me I've run EQ twice once with moderate test e and once with low (250mg per week) to let the EQ do the work. With 500mg test e 600 EQ is enough. You should be fine!
Ok thanks for the input! The only thing I'm worried about with this cycle is that it's so long I'm worried I won't bounce back as easily and I don't really want to use HCG until I start using the 19 nors. I was also going to add some TNE sporadically for per workout probably at 50-100 mg on some days. Do you think the extra test will cause any side effects. It sure if TNE clears quickly or not.
AnonLooks good pct needs To start 2 weeks after your last shot of test e not 1 as you have shown test e will still be giving you gains because it takes two weeks to clear that's why you need to run test e two weeks past all other compounds so everything isn't leaving your system at once and risk losing gains and crashing during pct otherwise looks good bro!
My advice would be to trim the leg hair down to at least a number 2. That will make your quads look even bigger! haha just kidding you look great, awesome base for your cycle. I love eq im sure you will gain some sick muscle from this cycle. 600 is plenty of eq imo but a lot of people will say to run more. If you on 500 test then 600 eq should be more than enough. Id try 12.5 aromasin and see how that goes before going right to 25. Your test dose is moderate and you have mast in there so I doubt you will need 25 aromasin, but everyone is different. Oh and keep the aromasin in there at week 23 at least, if not a week or 2 more
Lolllllll and if I shave it, it comes back thicker and stronger than before!! :(
Ok awesome thanks! I usually only need 12.5 aro if once I start getting irritable or my temp starts fluctuating and it keeps me stable for a couple weeks before I need another one. As I said above ill probably use some TNE but wondering how it will effect my current dosage. Do you guys also have any info on the sides of primo, my gf is using it for her next cycle but she's wondering about the hairless issue lol
I am running eq for 20 right now and I have run it for 16 and 18 in the past. 18 was by far better than the 16 but everything looks good but your going to have clomid in your pct right?
Ah nice if there is that much of a difference then ill run the eq and mast for 20 and the test for 22. I was going to add it but don't Nolva and clomid do the same thing. Why have them both??
because clomid is better at jump starting the hpta (hypothalamic- pituitary-testicular axis)and nolva is a better anti-e.
ElitelxI would make the EQ longer min of 16 weeks. However, im sure this is not your first cycle can take this to 18 or even 20 weeks for even better results. Eq goes slow, the longer you run it the better.
Ah yea I was thinking of running it for 20 but I'm just worried about being on cycle for so long. So you think running the eq and mast for 20 and the test for 22 would be better??
Elitelxyes and if your worried you could get some HCG and run it through the cycle, or do an HCG blast after your cycle and before your PCT.