posted Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:25
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Help! Pinned 3 times and just tore my ACL
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I pinned last monday, last thur and this monday. Each time was 250mg TestE and 300mg EQ. I just tore my ACL yesterday and I am sitting in bed in pain. I will have surgery next week and be out of commission for 6-8 months... what do I do for PCT? Do I wait 21 days from Monday (since I pinned EQ then), then do a normal PCT or what? I'm obviously not goign to continue while I can't work out. let me know bro's!
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Yea I don't think you need a pct for that
You got a surgery scheduled one week after a tear? I've worked at two PT clinics and had multiple ACL surgeries myself. Never seen somebody get in that fast.
Anyways, I wouldn't be so quick to come off like everyone is suggesting, so I hope they will hear me out on the explanation:
1) You will have the most muscular atrophy within the first week after surgery. Being on any AAS would vastly reduce the amount of atrophy that will occur. The atrophy that takes place during the first week is one of the many reasons why muscle growth after ACL surgery takes so long to get back to normal.
2) PT involving ACLs has been changing drastically over the last few years (witnessed first hand). If you are an athlete or even remotely athletic, they will push you quicker and harder as significant evidence has shown total body weight exercises have a very low likelihood of injuring a recently reconstructed ACL. As long as you don't overdo it, you could make some serious gains while going through PT even though you will be somewhat restricted in the types of exercises and weights that you will be lifting.
3) You can still do upper body training, and there is no reason to stop any of this.
Again, coming off is totally fine, but after going through PT multiple times as a natural athlete, I can only see a host of benefits from being on only a modest dose of AAS to combat the atrophy that occurs post surgery.
Your call.
Its actually may 12th. This is my 2nd acl tear in this knee and 6th overall on this knee. really screwed it from football. the mri shows a slight tear in the meniscus and pcl as well. so we will see. I think i am going to jump off. I run maybe 1-2 cycles a year and I would hate to waist the money and "on" time while only doing arms basically. i appreciate the insight. idk i will see what the surgeon says with the other crap going on in there and we will see. i just dont want to PCT mid recovery and i am not runnign a 9 month cycle lol
Personally I wouldnt even bother with pct and just come off.
Rustyhooker3 pins for 750 test. Half dosed pct should be enough at 21 days. You elevated test but not for multiple Weeks for harder shutdown.
Heal up soon!
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and thanks bro, aint the first time you have helped me out and im sure it wont be the last +1 for the help!
so at day 21, should i do 2 weeks of 50clomid/20nolva or 4 weeks of 50/50/25/25 clomid and 20/20/10/10 nolva? just curious
RustyhookerId go 4 just to be safer. You didn't run long but 750 is a decent amount. Better to be safe without complete overkill. If you do get anything past just normal waterload then address that as needed with your ai..