posted Tue, 12/31/2013 - 12:23
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Improvements suggestions for my PCT.
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Ok im running 12 weeks, heres my cycle.
tren a- 6 weeks(100mg EOD)
mast prop- 9 weeks(100mg EOD)
test prop- 12 weeks(100mg EOD)
aromasin-25mg day 12 weeks
I have and ideas on what I want to use for pct. But, I am running tren acetate in the cycle and its real hard on the HPTA. Underneath is what I was going to use for pct.
HCG- 2 vials 5000iu on week 7. The following Monday of my last shot I will start 2 vials 5000iu on Mondays and thursdays for 3 weeks.
clomid-25mg everyday for three weeks starting on the following Monday of my last shot.
I would like comments on any improvements you may be able to suggest. This is my first cycle with tren. so im a tad bit sketchy of it.Thank you.
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i think from experience. not just my own but helping others out you should shelve this cycle and start over. i think since its your third cycle, and since im not sure what your first were and how they were ran and based on your approach to AI and PCT that your experience is limited and there is a lot to learn. i mean no disrespect, even i started off the wrong way. ive learned as i went. youre in a great place to learn and get the best knowledge on the internet right here. i would recommend running a long ester test, such as test e or test c from 12 to 14 weeks. add one compound, either a kicker or finisher. a kicker would be Dbol or anadrol. a finisher i would recommend would be anavar to cut, harden and lean. if youre dead set on running another injectible id suggest masteron E for all its wonderful benefits and anti e ability. as far as AI aromasin is fine id suggest also getting arimidex if you havent tried it, running 25mg a day of aromasin is very high for most, most only run 6.25 ED aromasin has the ability to dry out joints and cause some low E sides for some before it gets the estrogen issues straight. arimidex you only typically need .50mg EOD. as for PCT you should run clomid and nolvadex or toremifene and nolvadex. no need to run HCG through cyce, maybe as a pct kicker, but youre young and you arent on trt/hrt and you havent been cycling long, its not a super harsh cycle that would warrant its use either. let me know what you think of my suggestions than we can work out a great PCT for you.
that sounds like a great idea. how about this.
Test e- 400mg a week for 14 weeks.
mast e- 300mg a week for 9 weeks.
dbol- 25 mg a day for the first 4 weeks.
Anavar 25mg ed for the last 4 weeks.
arimidex- like you said .50 eod for the length of the cycle.
HCG- 2000iu Monday and Thursday following the cycle to kickstart the pct like you suggested.
Clomid-50mg a day for 3 weeks.
nolvadex-20 mg ed for 3 weeks.
Does this sound good to you?
test e 400 is fine for cycle duration, go up to 400 on the masteron and run that the whole cycle too, id pick one of the orals, anavar or dbol. but honestly since its your first time with the masteron, biggest suggestion is just run the masteron and test only. believe me you will love this cycle. masteron is amazing, with the arimidex, dont touch it until its needed as masteron is a natural anti estrogen in itself and limits the need for an AI. when i ran mast and test only i was only using the arimidex once a week. starting an AI before you need it will lead to low estrogen, which isnt fun in any way and can lead to injury from dried out joints ligaments and tendons. try running this for a pct
toremifene 100/100/50/50 and nolvadex 40/40/40/40 its an amazing PCT. PCT should always be a minimum of 4 weeks. i wouldnt personally do any hcg with this cycle.
the thing is when you add so much stuff to a cycle, especially new stuff, if something goes wrong, you have no idea what compound is the cause. keep it simple, build a foundation, adding one new compound per cycle, learning what the new compound does, some compounds work better with others. learning how you tolerate them and how you respond is pinnacle to developing personal knowledge as to what works and how to run it for yourself and many times you may run a compound several times before you realize the ideal way to run it for yourself. i ran anavar at least 4 or 5 times before i found the perfect dose for me and i cant tolerate anadrol at all, i hate dbol because i get horrid acne and aromasin makes my wrists hurt like hell. like i said it takes time and experience. cant start at the top floor, start at the bottom and work your way up. ask anyone on here, many of us have used things we just cant tolerate, nothing worse than dropping a whole cycle because you dont know what it is.
26, Im 270lbs last time I checked im 18%BF and 6ft4. ive ran 2 previous cycles. I got the cycle online. and I ran the cycle twice. This is my first ive actually tried to build on my own. I will admit im not going to run the tren. Im ready for it. my cycle is as followed.
12 weeks
Test prop-125mg eod
EQ-150mg on Monday and Thursday
anavar- 50mg every day weeks 7 through 12
aromasin 25mg ed for length of cycle
pct protocol
HCG- 1000iu on Monday and Thursday for two weeks
nolvadex-40 ed for weeks 2-3 then drops to 20 ed for weeks 4-5
do you already have this stuff on hand? or is this what you are planning to run?
we need to know more about your history to help you, what have you ran, how old are you, current pysical shape, and your goals. this cycle isnt something you will get much help on typically unless you are an experienced user. also need a good bit of work on the AI, OCT and PCT protocol. post your stats and than many will be glad to help. you can PM me after you post your stats and i can help also.
3 things. Stats and cycle history-experience. Why you running a stack like that (6-9-12)? What about caber? That's a lot of AI for 50 mg of prop ED. Your off on a few things...here's some advise...don't run it your not ready.