posted Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:31
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Halo Extreme and 4-Andro only cycle
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I'm about to start a Halo Extreme and 4-Andro cycle in about a week. Trying to figure out the best PCT to go with to help recover the fastest and keep most of my gains.
PLAN: 4 week cycle
3 caps daily of Halo Extreme (breakfast, lunch, dinner)
4 caps daily of 4-Andro (2 breakfast, 2 dinner)
2 caps daily of advanced cycle support (breakfast, dinner)
PCT:
Clomid:50/50/50/25
Nolvadex: 50/50/50/25
I want to run HCG but don't know if it's nessisary to do that. I got shut down pretty hard from a VAR only cycle about 6 months ago and felt like I recover decent but 100% back to normal. Would like some advise from some more knowledgable sources.
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BilMcbigballsI've taken 4- andro and it didn't do nothing. These compounds r gonna be harsh on liver. R u just wanting to stick to pro hormones? Or u don't wanna pin anything? If this is the case try some anadrol and dbol. That will jack u waaaay up! Size and strength. But the dude below said it best with the nolva and clomid. Also only running these for a month as they say to do is pretty much worthless. I know from experience. Check out m-sten by ironmaglabs, and run it with trenazone for 2 months if u wanna stick with legal stuff. My bench went IP 40lbs by the end of cycle
you need to get some liver support, like liv 52 or organ shield and some saw palmetto. this is a harsh cycle, it will give you strength gains but you can get safer strentgh gains from other things. can i ask why havent you considered running testosterone? are you trying gain strength but keep the weight down and size down. run the clomid at 100/100/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20. i think we should explore a cycle that isnt so hard on the liver and organs. you didnt need HCG with var either, var is a DHT derivative, it doesnt cause much suppression at all, if any, and never enough to warrant a var only cycle to need HCG. how bout you friend request me and we can get into some detail and brainstorm some things for ya.
Sounds good man. Just sent you one.
What are your goals? Post up some stats (age, height, weight, body fat, cycle history) Oral only cycles are generally frowned upon from what I've seen
My goals are mainly strength goals with around 8-10 pounds of weight gain. I'm 24 6'2 212 with around 11% BF. I have taken anavar only cycle at 80mg for 8 weeks with HCG starting on the 3rd week through the end of the cycle and one week after at 250IU twice a week. I ran my PCT with nolvadex at 50/50/25/25. I felt like it helped a lot but didn't feel 100% recovered.