Thinking About Tren A, I Need Some Help Please!
Hello, I am 37, 6', 220 18% bf. Yeah I went and got fat,.. Lol, I've always been up and down with my weight. Anyway, I was placed on hrt by my Dr about 3 years ago. Through those years I have increased the test and added in other compounds to run 10 week cycles. After the 10 week cycle, I lowered the test back down to the recommended dosage by my doctor and continued on with my hrt. Hcg and anastrozol are also prescribed to me for year round use, as a part of the replacement therapy.
My previous cycles included:
Test & deca 2:1 (10 weeks), and winstrol (5weeks)
Test & deca 2:1 (10 weeks), and anadrol (5 weeks)
Test & deca 2:1, and anavar (all for 10 weeks)
As of lately, I have been reading on tren and what it's capabilities are. My objective is, I am trying to lose body fat while concentrating more on gaining muscle. After my cycle has ended and I have packed on as much muscle as possible, I will go back to lots of cardio to concentrate more on body fat. For the most part, everything I've read said that a first time user of tren a should have a starting point of 50mg EOD, and if there are no negative sides, it can be increased to 75 or 100mg EOD. So my question is, if I was planning on running my standard test e and deca cycle along with the tren, about what should my cycle and pct look like? Also, is it advisable to start with test e, deca, and anadrol for weeks 1-5, then switching the anadrol for the tren for weeks 5-10? If so, what would the pct look like for that?
Thanks for all your help!
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kurt78To be honest, after reading what your goals are and then your planned cycle, I think you should really reconsider a few things. First I would forget about the tren. I know it sounds like the solution to all your problems but it won't just melt all your fat and get you the muscle you want without some side effects that can be dramatic. If you looking to drop a lot of body fat then Deca also shouldn't be included in your cycle. Anadrol is another steroid that just adds alot of weight and mostly water. The cycle you are considering is a bulkig cycle really and for an experienced user to boot. Just my 2 Cents....
Let me suggest a cycle somewhat like
Test Prop 100 mg EOD (weeks 1-12)
Anavar 40-50mg ED (weeks 1-8)
Primobolan 600mg a week (1-10)
Aromasin as an AI and don't forget your pct of Nolva and chlomid also
Test prop is alot of injections but less water retention also and your goal is to lose bf%
I'm just throwing a quick option for you to maybe look at but you can make adjustments also as needed. But Deca and Anadrol are definately going in another direction from which you stated you wanted to go my friend,
Thanks bro, i just had deca in there because normally that's my standard cycle, test and deca and maybe some anavar. The only reason I was even considering anadrol is because I have some left over from earlier this year and I wanted to get rid of it. That'll be the last time I use that anyway because of the liver toxicity. I'll definitely look into the cycle you suggested! Thanks!
AnonYour BF is at 18%, so you say. And you want to run two 19 nors together which is a no no. And this is your what number cycle?? If I were you I would leave the tren alone and start with getting your diet on point along with some cardio to get that bf down. Then and only then would I consider running the deca with the test. You will see some amazing gains. You most definitely do not want to run tren just yet and not at 500mgs a week. You are right to start with 50 mgs eod whenever you do run it. However, It appears to me that you want to use the gear for weight loss instead of using some self discipline. Actually it's a little lazy man. If you can't control your weight now and you do happen to get it down, how long before you balloon back up brother? Then what do you do. more gear????? If you're gonna do it, do it right. The gear itself is not a cure all!!!!!
X2.+ 1 Brother. Great advice
Thanks for your input. This is my 7th or 8th cycle, majority of them being just test and deca. I've ran that cycle anywhere from 300mg per week to 900mg per week at a 2:1 ratio. I know exactly what to expect out of that cycle, and yes they were nothing short of great gains. Unfortunately, my work schedule in the spring and summer are nothing but long and tiring hours. So yes, I do fall off my diet and workout schedule. I know what it takes to get my body fat down and what my diet should consist of in order to do so, and no I'm not looking for the easy way out. As they say, this isn't my first rodeo.. Lol. I'm just looking to add more into my upcoming cycle and get a little more out of it.
You have been great advice now listen.By the way there is only 1 Wolverine on here. Lol. Nice choice.
AnonMy misread. I thought those were cycles you planned to run. Here's a link that should give you some insight on tren cycles. I'm also considering it for my next cycle...All the best brother
http://www.steroid.com/trenbolone-cycle.php
No worries, and no offense taken. I did some research on the tren and deca combo, and yes you're right. That's a big no-no! Well unless you want to increase your chances of gyno dramaticly..lol. It falls into that risk vs reward column at that point. That's why I'm on here asking, because I don't know enough about it let alone what to run with it, so I appreciate the input. Thanks, and all the best to you too!
Well since you are on TRT, then PCT is not needed. But definitely keep up with the HCG and anastrozole while on the blast.
Don't run Deca and tren together your first time with tren, first of all Deca is not good with cutting and losing weight. You want to shred not bulk.
Run tren with your standard TRT dose, well I'm assuming your TRT dose is about 250mg test per wk? If it isn't, then run that much test and 500mg tren per wk.
Try and do every day tren injections versus EOD to keep blood levels stable and sides minimal. But it's up to you, I run tren EOD sometimes to cut down on pinning.
Get some Cabergoline just to play it safe. Tren and Deca are both 19nor steroids, they raise prolactin not estrogen like test. Cabergoline is a dopamine agonist that also lowers prolactin, which in return boosts your libido and energy/well being.
If you need to find some legit caber, FR me and then PM me. I want to help, and make sure you have real stuff.
The reason you would run tren higher than test is because your cutting and also because tren has a higher affinity to bind to the androgen receptors than test does so you wanna let tren do most of the work. This is strictly a cycle for you to shed body fat and add some muscle, this should accomplish that if your diet is on point.
The caber u can run at 0.5mg 2x per wk and adjust if necessary but I doubt you'll need to
Oh.. And why do you want to run anadrol again? Thought you were trying to cut. How about some anavar or Tbol?
aylmejorNandrolone can used for bulk or cut. You eat for you bulk or cutting... Just sayin.
Thanks for some insight bro! Yes, the doc has me on 200mg of test per week, 250 units hcg 3x per week, and .5mg anastrozol 2x per week. I wasn't planning on starting my cycle until mid to late November because I have a physical agility test in December, and i wanted to hold off on the tren until after the test. So I figured maybe I could start the cycle with anadrol to give myself a little more strength, plus I already have enough to run 5 weeks, so I was looking to incorporate it in there and get rid of it. I've read that tren could possibly hinder one's cardio, so I was a little concerned with that. That's why I put it in the second part of the cycle. Yes I'm looking into more anavar at the moment. Friend request sent.