posted Wed, 09/11/2013 - 17:05
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Anyone REALLY know how to use HCG for weight loss?
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Besides PCT, Ive been reading a bit about HCG for weight loss, Dr.Emma and all, but nowhere does it say exact amounts to inject, and other important protocol. Just wondering if anyone out there knows or has first hand info on this? Also, is there better, safer chemistry out there to cut fat off without losing muscle? Not 100% sure this is the right Forum for this question too?
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jonesmax096Hey SocRat
HCG is the best way to loose weight must check this link which will help you out to know how to use HCG!
http://www.alldaychemist.com/hcg-diet
The HCG diet is completely explained in the accredited medical journal, "Pounds and Inches, A New Approach to Obesity" by Dr. A Simeons. The diet consists of 23 injections of 125-200ius for a period of 26 days (last 3 days no injections.) ObamaBlows is absolutely correct in his statements. The HCG diet absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt resets the diencephalon (hypothalamus) when used in conjunction with the correct low calorie diet. I know this because I used the diet to go from 275lbs to 215lbs in 26 days. I too called bs at first. A friend of mine said I was ignorant to make statements about a protocol in which I had no first hand experience. I figuered I would give it a try because diet and training were not working. Don't believe all these ignorant folks who say HCG only mimics LH. This is false. I guarantee none of them have ever tried it. HCG has no direct effect on fat loss, this is true. It does allow the body to utilize its own stored fat as a direct source of energy when calories are severely restricted (500-1000/day). The HCG diet is one of the greatest secrets in the world today. It continues to be debunked by those who have no experience with the protocol, they are simply regurgitating incorrect scientific observation. Facts change, the truth however does not.
RustyhookerIts BS. The claim is hcg AND sub 800 calorie meals for Weeks. So you're high on hormones and starving to death. Which one is the fat burner?
Cardio...sweat...work it off. No shortcuts without payments ;)
Anonyes thank u I posted studies that all say that HCG does not help fat loss
HCG is awesome for hypogondism and PCT period
Anonto make things clear from the begging Im a med student. You got to remember a lot of the weight loss gimiks are almost all bended truths. HCG when injected into a man acts as LH therefore the testicles convert it to Testotserone, but you will also produce more estrodoil via aromatase enzyme. The whole idea came about since more testosterone= more fat loss with a calorie deficit diet. So that being said for this to happen correctly you would have to take an Ai to avoid the extra Estrodoil if not trust me your body will convert 45% of the precious new testosterone to that female hormone its nature dude use e.g. Arimidex or Aromasin
but what will work even better if you just go ahead and inject Testosterone cyp or E and do the calorie deficit diet and TaDa you lost weight
Thanks, may just do that, although the HCG is then needed to kick my system on and Aromasin for the side effects, which is basicly a simple HRT? Also, do you know the dose of HCg if I was to do daily injections?
AnonDude IDK like for simple PCT would be 1000iu a week you could try 2000iu
but like I said before Testosterone will be a cheaper route and more effective route for your goals
Obama BlowsI knew a chick that did the HCG diet. Worked great. I had to give her the shots cuz she was too scared to do it lol But the SAME FUCKING MEAL over and over again had to suuuck! You only get to eat 500 calories a day. Gotta get a postage scale to weight the meat, boiled spinach and some dinky ass bread sticks that were meant for the diet.
http://hcgdietinfo.com/HCG-Diet-Plan-Protocols.htm
Anonand lets be honest here even without taking HCG and only eating 500cal anybody will lose weight
Obama BlowsThat's not how the hcg diet works.
you consume 500 calories a day, but the hcg causes your body to burn fat, so your body still gets about 2000 calories a day.
Anonhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23606549
AnonHCG in no way shape or form makes your burn fat
remember HCG becomes Testosterone in a male. Testosterone it self wil make no one lose weight look at all these fatties on this forums that inject and are not still cut up with abs'
its the combo of More Testosterone and extreame calorie deficit that's help burning but itll work more in a female cuz they have low Testosterone
an HCG of 1000iu a week to a male will maybe double their test
but its all in the diet
so example lets say and fattie injects 600mg of test and eats 500cal a day, compared to another fattie no test but aswell only 500cal
they will both loose weight but the one with the testosterone will preserve more muscle
and now look at this I injected testosterone and im not all cut up yet
So what does this tell you its all in the diet
The HCG only helps preserve muscle at a dose dependency at the end its cheaper to buy a bottle of test and do the same diet "for a male"
do you understand where Im going brother?
Obama BlowsThere's a reason the REAL HCG diet is still around dude. It's STILL prescribed. That's why the fake HCG diet (the kind you'd get at GNC etc) have been warned repeatedly by the FDA cuz they're having people go on an LCD without any real HCG and it's just causing people to starve themselves.
Anonhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3609673
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405506
your an intelligent dude and experienced with gear but this is just a way for Dr and stores to make money
studies show it bro
Obama BlowsHCG appears to act on the hypothalamus, signaling the body to release stored fat into the bloodstream where it is then available to be used by the cells for nourishment. This alone will not cause weight loss, though, unless you reduce your food intake. This forces the body to use the mobilized fat from the bloodstream. HCG causes the release of abnormal fat without affecting structural fat and muscle tissue. Which means you lose in those stubborn areas--hips, thighs, buttocks and upper arms!
Also, here's a study saying otherwise.
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/hcg-diet-research-study
Anondude that's a fixed opinion HCG only acts as a LH look a like this is why our balls absorb it and we make more test, Test comes from the balls
LH and FSH comes from the Piturity gland which stacks down from the hypothalamus
And Dude Dr.oz is a real DR but he is out to make money he is advertising it that all the so called study he made needs to be published at PUBMED where a board of scientist and experts repeat the same experiment to see if they get the same results if not it will not be published
I know this I was taught this at school
his tudy is unpublished so its invalid for science that ones I sent you are valid studies which done by different Dr and scientist and in all HCG failed to cuase more fat loose
HCG does not release fat the only thing that releases fat is starvation and excersise with Insulin levels being at a adequate levels
don't let the Advertising studies fool you you away go to pubmed or other international pubmed or journals if it aint there it aint true
I know the fat loss process cuase I learned it in anatomy and nutrition and the only hormones that helps fat to be used as energy are epinephrine, norinephrine, testosterone ,cortisol, Low Insulin levels and HGH and combined with energy expenditure fat does not simply fall off its used as energy while the appropriate hormones are present. And fat loss is not site specific it burns it evenly thru out the body, if that were true you can do 100 ab cruches a day and have Rock solid abs fast
you can look up all the info I gave in respected medical resources and medical educational resources Im in med school for a reason I love this shit and I have a memory that outstands me sometimes
I gotchya, and of coarse that brings up more questions. Too much test cyp will shut my own system down, hence back to hcg at 500iu x2 weekly? What would you think might be a q for test cyp weekly?
i kinda like the idea of bumping my own systems test up with hcg, but is that enough for my goals. Also, is there another "better " way to cut fat without losing muscle? DNP seems a bit extreme, from what Ive read.
AnonYes this is true but you can also desensitize your testicles with HCG too
so either way your messing with your HPTA don't get it twisted
as what studies say with only 200mg of test cyp a week with calorie deficit you can preserve muscle and loose fat very well
but most people use 400mg a week
Thx, really appreciate your time. adios
Of coarse, but with HCG many are saying testosterone goes up, which helps stop muscle depletion on that low calorie intake. still looking for how much HCg to take daily. Your girl probably just received loaded pins?
Obama Blowsread the link. it tells you all that. no pens...i mixed the shit for her too
Thanks! that link seriously will help should I go this route. Much appreciated