posted Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:37
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Oct Nov Dec stack, PCT in hand, any suggestions?
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Ayup all. This is it, my next 3 months.... From tonight when I get in..
1/2ml (125mg) Pharma Test E a week for 12 weeks
3ml Mast E a week x 12 weeks
1.5ml Tren E a week x 12 weeks
50mg Anavar a day for 12 weeks plus 2 weeks clearance time 'till PCT
Winny at 50mg for last 6 weeks
So that's like the base..
THEN just need Tren ace......
70mg ED for first 7 weeks
Then 100mg ED for next 4 weeks
Then I finish it off with 150mg ED
for LAST 3 weeks up till PCT
I have Tamoxifen, HCG, for my PCT in hand. Taking AI too in the form of Proviron 1 tab ED, 50mg
UPDATED: NOW HAVE; Mirapex Pramipexole, Cabergoline (Dostinex/Cabaser) also LIV 52 Liver care. Cheers
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why so complicated with 6 coumpounds? 6 good meals and test cycle would get better results
var AND winny for the first 6 weeks followed by another 8 weeks of var?
Whats your liver support plan look like brother?
The var is not an issue really, though, understood on the Winny. I plan to take Milk Thistle with the orals...
Anonmilk thistle is hardly enough for winny..var is harder on the other lipid profile (HDL etc)
whats the deal with your PCT.. not feelin' it
PS: I looked at your pics and will tell you the winny is about pointless to use at your given BF.. might consider dropping that because its going to do more harm to your joints, blood values than good to your "look"
Explain what you mean when you say my "look", and why in particular you think Winny is going to be more harmful? Whats wrong with the PCT? When you say you "are not feeling it", I could do with more information please bro'?
Cheers :-)
My liver values were perfect after eight weeks of 75mg var.
best suggestion i could give you is to list your stats brother and then go back to the drawing board - seems to me entirely too much tren, not enough caber/prami, not even close to enough liver protection for all those orals ... and by not enough i mean you havent planned on any! cmon man, you should know better
My bad. Liver protection, plan on running milk thistle with my orals.. And see my other replies, good to get feedback, and got broad shoulders, so, won't get pissed if people don't agree with my proposed stack. :-)
fair enough but all things being equal, if you were to "get pissed if people don't agree with your proposed stack", you shouldve never bothered to even post this here, broad shoulders or not.
on some real shit, you can do whatever the hell you want but you posted here asking for feedback, so don't get an attitude if people don't tell you what you want to hear. i'm not trying to be a dick either so please don't think i'm saying any of this maliciously.
i think 12 weeks of non-stop orals, double trouble the last half of those 12 weeks, is asking for trouble and not worth the risk. especially with only milk thistle for liver protection ... if you're dead set on this then at least get some essential forte. pm nitti and/or carlosdanger, i know nitti ran some really harsh orals (halotestin if i'm not mistaken) with it and his liver values were golden. at the very least get some liv-52, i feel like it's much more effective at liver protection than milk thistle alone, seeing as they give it to people with hep c and cirrohis of the liver ... plus it's really not all that expensive.
me personally, id do one or the other - either anavar for the first 8 weeks absolute tops, or winny for the last 4 weeks at 50mgs a day. whatever you do brother, just do it safe, be careful, and enjoy your cycle
Fella. I am not planning on getting an "attitude", I have posted on here for anything that comes back to me, and everything that comes back, whether I agree or not, is irrelevant, as I have asked for help, so, will take all the help and advise I see fit. No problem :-)
I was genuinely thinking of not doing the Winny whatsoever, and upping the dose of the 'var possibly. Will buy the liv-52 now... Thanks again bro'
Never understood just using HCG without Clomid. I'm curious how dell you recover. You intend on posting labs after PCT? No Prami or caber? You just relying on Mast E to keep your estrogen low and praying prolactin doesn't spike?
Was thinking of Caber yes. And even Clomid with the Nova (Tamox'). So, you think I should go with the Caber during my cycle?
yes bro, you definitly want to have caber or prami during AND THROUGH PCT, which clomid NEEDS to be included in.
prolactin will suppress your hpta so in order for pct to be effective and not sabotaged by high prolactin levels, we need to continue to run all the way through pct. ive even heard of guys continuing to take caber for a couple weeks after pct just to be safe. clomid will block estrogen at the pituitary gland, which long story short will send the signal to your nuts to start producing testosterone again ... nolvadex alone is simply not adequate to reboot natural test production :/
start the caber between 2-4 weeks in, my outlook on dosing is the same with all other compounds - the least amount used to achieve maximum/desired results is the goal. .25mgs every 3 days has been recommended to me by several people that i consider to be experts, if more is needed then up it to .5mgs e3d
Good man! No problem, my PCT will all be well in hand. I haven't started my stack yet, as I want EVERYTHING in place first. So, on with getting my PCT in hand in total first. Thank you very much for your advise :-)
Cheers Bro'
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I know some that swear by HCG PCT, but I've never seen their blood work. I imagine it is easily fucked up, as HCG can shut you down itself in large doses. I would use Clomid. Definately need to have caber or Prami. It is a must.
Do you have a cycle history?
Christ. When I came back from my massive break, I did everything. Test, Tren, Sus, Winny, did a cycle of nearly 16 weeks. Then came on here, got roasted, so, took a break, PCT'd, and here I want to go again. I have my sex drive, I have good health, my balls are working fine. My body is coping well, and recovered well, with the PCT. Though, the ONLY reason I posted on here my next proposed stack, is for this reason! I do not know half of what some of you lot on here know, so, willing to listen and take advise. Simply :-)