ATTENTION THIS IS NOT AN THREAD FOR THE NOVICE USER!!!! I HAVE MANY CYCLES UNDER MY BELT AND I HAD ACCESS TO LABWORK AND MEDICINES PRESCRIBED TO ME IF MY BLOOD PRESSURE BECAME AN ISSUE AND I MONITOR MY VITAL SIGNS MULTIPLE TIMES DAILY....PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT IF YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERIENCED USER!!!!

And I fucking LOVED IT!!!!

Through my years of cycling I have always loved the two oral compounds of Dianabol and Anadrol… They have always been my favorite kickstarts for cycles, but more so Dbol in the past several years… I just recently found myself caught in the Pepsi and Coke challenge lately with both and began to research the compounds more thoroughly as individuals…. The more I studied the more I understood that contrary that these compounds are very much different in ratios and even the pathways they travel and even the side effects differ as well….Just bear with me and I will tie this all together because I need you to see the brief profiles below I found to help u guys understand just how different they are side by side

“Anadrol 50 is considered by many to be the most powerful steroid available, with results of this compound being extremely dramatic. A steroid novice experimenting with oxymetholone is likely to gain 20 to 30 pounds of massive bulk, and it can often be accomplished in less than 6 weeks, with only 50-100mg a day. This steroid produces a lot of trouble with water retention, so let there be little doubt that much of this gain is simply bloat. “

“It is important to note however, that this drug does not directly convert to estrogen in the body. Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which gives it a structure that cannot be aromatized. As such, many have speculated as to what makes this hormone so troublesome in terms of estrogenic side effects. Some have suggested that it has progestational activity, similar to nandrolone, and is not actually estrogenic at all. Since the obvious side effects of both estrogens and progestins are very similar, this explanation might be a plausible one. However we do find medical studies looking at this possibility. One such tested the progestational activity of various steroids including nandrolone, norethandrolone, methandrostenolone, testosterone and oxymetholone. It reported no significant progestational effect inherent in oxymetholone or methandrostenolone, slight activity with testosterone and strong progestational effect inherent in nandrolone and norethandrolone. With such findings it starts to seem much more likely that oxymetholone can intrinsically activate the estrogen receptor itself, similar to but more profoundly than the estrogenic androgen methAndriol.”

“ If this is the case we can only combat the estrogenic side effects of oxymetholone with estrogen receptor antagonists such as Nolvadex or Clomid, and not with an aromatase inhibitor. The strong anti-aromatase compounds such as Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin would prove to be totally useless with this steroid, as aromatase is not involved. The Androgenic/ Anabolic Ratio: 45:320….so keep that in mind for Drol”

Look at the difference in Dbol when compared to Drol in conversion….

“Similar to testosterone and Anadrol 50, Dianabol is a potent steroid, but also one which brings about noticeable side effects. For starters methandrostenolone is quite estrogenic. Gynecomastia is often a concern during treatment, and may present itself quite early into a cycle (particularly when higher doses are used). At the same time water retention can become a pronounced problem, causing a notable loss of muscle definition as both subcutaneous water and fat build. Sensitive individuals may therefore want to keep the estrogen under control with the addition of an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex and/or Proviron. The stronger drugs Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin (antiaromatase) would be a better choice if available.”

“In addition, androgenic side effects are common with this substance, and may include bouts of oily skin, acne and body/facial hair growth. Aggression may also be increased with a potent steroid such as this, so it would be wise not to let your disposition change for the worse during a cycle. With Dianabol there is also the possibility of aggravating a male pattern baldness condition. Sensitive individuals may therefore wish to avoid this drug and opt for a milder anabolic such as Deca-Durabolin. While Dianabol does convert to a more potent steroid via interaction with the 5-alpha reductase anzyme (the same enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to dihydrotestosterone), it has extremely little affinity to do so in the human body’s. Dianabol is much more estrogenic not because it is more easily aromatized, as in fact the 17 alpha methyl group and c1-2 double bond both slow the process of aromatization. The problem is that methandrostenolone converts to l7alpha methylestradiol, a more biologically active form of estrogen than regular estradiol. The Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 90-210:40-60”

…So u can see the difference when compared to Drol

Now there is one common side they both possess equally is liver toxicity in high does for long periods of time….that’s no secret at all…. So which is really better for you to achieve mass? I asked the same and I came up with the answer both….You tell me that if you take 100mg of Anadrol everyday alone that there is any different than taking 100mg of Dianabol in terms of your liver? There’s not because they are both methylated and liver toxic but I can tell you the sides are different….But what if I told you that you could have the best of both worlds….Skeptical? YES!! So was I but we live in a world where the only clinical studies for the mad scientist inside me is the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde self experiment and that’s exactly what I did for 4 weeks and I had the best oral combo ride ever… Contrary to popular belief and urban legend these compounds together worked like a dream…. And best of all offset the other’s sides!!!

I started 50mg Dbol and 50mg Drol everyday totaling 100mg orally for four weeks and I had some of the best work outs and pumps than ever before….I realized that the compounds travelling two different pathways gave then synergism but more potency at lower mgs of each one… Like a “double whammy” but in a good way

Using Drol alone I find that my appetite was huge and always hungry, but I was always lethargic and when I would use Dbol I would lose my appetite and feel like superman…. So when I combined them they seem to offset the others negative because I ate with a good appetite and had wicked pumps which are expected with both but the best part was I felt great and had energy….The strength went up and of course I’m in my bulker so the weight came just as promised by the compounds and water retention from them….

Now at the end of my 4 weeks I went to my physician and got my bloods and to my amazement my liver and lipids were in normal limits, except my HDL was low but I expected that because I continually TRT… Now keep in mind I used N-acethyl-choline and milkthistle for liver supps together and I use niacin, krill oil, and aspirin for my lipids so I’m proof that supplementation works with that too…

I encourage you to try this combination for yourself and see if you have the effect I did…BTW I had two other guys that ran this with me and the reports came back positive so it’s got potential….At this point I will be using this combo again my next cycle that requires such kickers…I hoped I helped some of you guys and struck some curiosity for you to try yourself…Good luck in your adventure

References for my profile excerpts came from
www.steroidology.com