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+ 7 TRENBOLONE!!!! NEW AAS USERS READ THIS ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE UNDER 25!!!

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Ok I have seen a lot of KIDS and NEW GUYS on there first cycle talking about stacking Trenbolone in there cycle and i gotta say this scares me. Just because tren's anabolic/androgenic ratio is 500:500 does not means it is going to make you 5 times bigger than if you were to only do testosterone which is a 100:100 ratio. Understand that this compound, being a 19-nor will shut you down hard. So hard that you may never fully recover to the state before you started your cycle. Not to mention what it can do to your kidneys... and if it is oral tren what about your liver? Did you do your research before you chose this product or did you just get on a site and buy after you read someone glorifying the gains they made while losing fat on there tren cycle? This 19-nor will shut you down harder and faster than NPP or DECA any day. Did you know that Trenbolone was created as finaplix pellets to feed to livestock to beef them up and make them eat more? It has never been approved for humans! Do you really want to risk shutting down your pituitary gland so hard that you may have to start TRT at the age of 25 or 30??? Testosterone is risky enough. ALL of these compounds that we put in are body come with a price. REMEMBER THAT. Are you ready to screw yourself up at 20...22...23 years old? ASK YOURSELF THAT! REALLY! I've even seen kids as young as 16-18. You guys are at the prime of your life and the healthiest that you are ever going to be. Enjoy that while you have it. Dont ruin your life because you are too impatient to build quality lean muscle the natural way. Your brains cognitive functions do not fully develop enough to make good intelligent decisions until you are the age of 25. I've read a lot about this and this seem to be the general census from studies(and completely agree due to bad decisions i made at a younger age... i still do). I promise if you WORK HARD and EAT BIG you will grow quick at your age. If you hit a plateau then change up your workout routine for a couple of months and you will see that you can bust an extra 30lbs out when you go back.

I just ask you guys to remember that steroids come with a price. A price that you may think you are ready to pay but when it comes time it leaves you broke. All of you guys and that means everyone including myself, think before you go putting these compounds into your body next time. If you do decide to GET BLOOD WORK(full hormonal panel, metabolic profile, Liver values, Thyroid too, ect), monitor your BP, Tell your doctor to take a look at your blood work you have doctor/patient confidentiality for a reason. I see and endocrinologist because they will no more than anyone in these forums ever will. She informed me today that GH can cause cancer to grow in your body. Everyone should know that each and every one of us has cancer cells somewhere in our bodies. That scared me a little because after 2-3 months worth of research i got so wrapped up in the benefits of HGH that i forgot about the risks(one of my many mistakes STILL). But she will look out for me because she is unbaised and cares for her patients. Just be careful...Take the time to research!...and be aware of what consequences may come of it.

Doss's picture

Ahh, but you see, we don't know this to be fact or not thanks to government regulations and lack of emperical data. But we do know that there are things that are more damaging to the kidneys. Things like nitrogen from excessive protein deamination, as one example. Even certain drugs carry a greater potential than others. So, knowing this fact gives credit to the argument that the potential exists.

Not saying you're right; not saying you're wrong. But I'm a factual kinda person, and the facts don't exist.

(Not even sure why I'm making this argument... Lol)

deve's picture

That was my point too. There are no facts nor studies proving that tren more / less kidney toxic than other steroids.

j223's picture

I've yet to see ANYONE have kidney issues on tren. People believe it is hard on the kidneys because it can turn urine dark yellow which we all know is just the metabolites. I know a couple old guys that have run like 20 tren cycles and their kidneys are healthy as can be. I'm not buying the kidney damage thing. I mean unless you take tren year round without breaks at high dosages maybe but for a typical 10-12 wk cycle it's pretty much harmless.

pharamacuticali's picture

and knowing that is half the battle

hghwells's picture

Yes but it was very quickly discontinued and has been argued that it was not the same

j223's picture

It was extremely effective pharma drug and used to treat muscle wasting diseases but was limited mostly to adult males due to the androgenic effects. It was only discontinued because it was known to be the most powerful anabolic steroid. They were afraid it was being abused (which it was lol).

Doss's picture

Those finaplex pellets were/are actually injected into the livestock rather than fed. Just sayin

hghwells's picture

Respectfully corrected.

Doss's picture

Appreciate the writeup tho bro