Liver supplements on cycle
My apologies, as I'm sure this is here somewhere; just couldn't find it anywhere
I've been taking milk thistle since the first 2 weeks into this cycle and keep running into conflicting views on its effects
Currently, the only oral I'm taking is 40mg of Tbol, 5 days a week. While my initial thought was that I would be preventative in any liver "damage", I've also read that thistle and liv52 can reduce the effectiveness of any oral aas. Then, of course, others say it doesn't. While I've been out of the gym for 5 years, I've been particularly conscious of liver issues. The wounds to my eyes resulted in large doses of prednisone and I would take milk thistle afterwards, in an attempt to minimize any long term damage
In regards to the Tbol; I know the dosage isn't that high, which begs the question(s); being so low, do I need to run it on cycle and will it have much effect on the Tbol, if I do? This seems to be one of those questions with no definitive answer so personal experience and opinions would seem to be the best way to make an informed decision
Having been out for 5 years, blood work was not something I gave enough attention to. This is definitely Not the same gear I had available to me a decade ago! I'm about to run some mid cycle labs, now that I've realized this but didn't get them done beforehand, unfortunately
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Exactly what I was looking for, thank you. I'm doing such a small amount of oral aas and didn't really think I would need the protection but was taking the milk thistle, pre cycle and just continued. There shouldn't be any major damage, taking 40mg of Tbol 5 days a week so I think I'll just look into your product and run something post cycle to prevent any buildup over time
What ever works best for you brother. The best COA would probably be 500mg while using the oral anabolic, I only say this because studies have shown that TUDCA/UDCA can actually increase the effectiveness of orals by essentially preventing your liver from "fighting" them as well as all those protective and repairative effects. If you dont use orals regularly it may not be something you need to worry about.
Milk thistle and liv52 will literally do nothing for liver protection. When one takes oral anabolics a process called choleostasis begins as soon as they hit the liver where essentially the liver becomes inflamed and cannot flush its salts which provide the cleaning power for the liver.
Liv52 and milk thistle do nothing to prevent this process from happening. Liv52 is nothing more than an herbal blend and basically useless on cycle, off cycle it can keep the liver running strong and healthy. Milk thistle literally prevents the liver from doing 80% of its job so yes it will prevent it from becoming damaged but it also wont do most of its job.
TUDCA and UDCA have been shown to not only protect the liver from damages from oral AAS but can repair damage or reverse high liver enzyme readings. Here are some doses:
250mg per day while not on cycle.
500mg per day while on a cycle with oral aas.
1000mg-2000mg per day for liver repair, that is only if your sure youve done damage because of liver enzyme reading being high in your blood work.
TUDCA and UDCA shouldnt ever be used for a longer period than 10 weeks. To be safe I would use it a week before starting an oral regimen and then a week after the oral regimen is over as long as that does not exceed 10 weeks, which it probably should not regardless.