The legend Ronnie Coleman diagnosed with "PALUMBOSIM"
As some of us may know the legend and in my mind reigning champ Ronnie Coleman has Palumboism. It is sad and very unfortunate, but I would like to address this issue because it seems that theres still alot of question to what causes this.
Heres a link to get a better idea of exactly what it is.
http://sicktracks.com/forums/showthread.php?51098-Diagnosing-Palumboism
The articles theory claims palumboism is from the abuse of aas, and is related to the manipulation of our endocrine system.
Well I can safely say that is false. AAS has nothing to do with our organs. Neither does our endocrine system.
On the other hand HGH does promote uncontrolled growth of just about everything in us. Our bones, muscle tissue, and ORGANS!
So you GH abusers have been warned. Cut it out now unless you want to look like a circus freak. GH is expensive and no where near as anabolic as AAS despite what some people may claim.
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These guys I tell you they just dont realize that we cant just put everything in the body. Well we can but ultimately it comes with a price so its true when they say RISK AND REWARDS. I mean man what happened to sticking to the basics. I really dont feel sorry for these guys as they are never satisfied which is why Ive accepted the fact that I will never be a bodybuilder. I get away from 17a's beside TNE and then I take it minimal like my deca and test. Minimal hopefully will give longevity allowing me to reap the rewards of my efforts and utilizing time and muscle maturity. Stop going all in as its a prison sentence in my opinion. On the flip side of that I guess I just don't know how good it feels to b e 280 and ripped which is my goal and some of these professionals do. I have the genectics for it I truly figure that with time and patience b y the time Im 45 I should be 250 ripped but without adding the stress of the multiple compounds at these insane dosages. Hell I love gear, how it makes me feel, think, act, play my guitar so I want to be here as long as I can enjoying this beautiful mind, heart, body, and soul of mine well into my 90's feeling and looking like 60.
That's just fucked up! Wtf?!?!? And all those big time bodybuilders have that shit. Fuuuuckk that! Palumbo hisself looks sickening. He was a normal looking guy. Now not only the disproportionate mid section and fucked up veins but wtf happened to his skin? I though hgh helps rejuvenate the skin. My man looks like the missing link
FoolMeOnceHGH is an amazing peptide. But when you abuse it shits ganna get nasty. Fuck, you abuse anything and shit will get nasty.
All their arms turn into little T-Rex arms :/
please explain the above ^^^
FoolMeOnceThere is no direct relation to our endocrine system and our organs. Shutting down our hpta and restarting it over and over wont affect our organs to my knowledge unless you know something I dont.
That is absolutely not true. The endocrine system is directly related to our organs first and secondary. I would read through this article. http://www.innerbody.com/image/endoov.html#full-description
From what I've read about palumboism it could be attributed to years of synthol injections. When the muscle is filled with the synthol seo oil it expands the muscle and keeps the blood from flowing sufficiently and as a result over a long period of time will cause the muscle to shrink. Makes sense.
FoolMeOnceSynthol has nothing to do with palumbosim. Palumbosim is the increased size of a persons organs from the years of gh abuse causing the mid section to push outwards in all directions. Also ronnie coleman used little to no synthol other wise he woulda never made mr olympia. Synthol kills defenition which is required to achieve that elite level. Another thing, a muscle expanding will not restrict blood flow. Blood flow restriction is caused from fatty deposits in the arteries from poor diet which results in high blood pressure.
There is no doubt hgh is the cause of extended midsection. But you think logically about synthol when you take healthy muscle tissue and Clog it with oil, you block a steady blood flow and life giving oxygen. Synthol is big in bodybuilding and lot of top bodybuilder use it. Dave palumbo, Greg kovac, openly admit to using it for years and they both have palumbosim, hell dave palumbo markets it. If you do it right it will not distort the muscle if its used right. People like greg valentino abused it. I know people that are on stage and you could never tell they use it.
Rich Piana explains it well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kenUZ2VHkLw
FoolMeOnceOk yes I can see how synthol could raise blood pressure, but elevated blood pressure has nothing to do with palumboism. And you could say it would put more stress on the heart causing it to grow, but no where near to the degree of causing palumboism.
I agree 100 percent about GH causing the organ growth, i was mainly talking about how synthol over the years "might" be the factor of there arm shrinkage.
FoolMeOnceahhh i see. Well im not sure about that one either. Thats probably from the years of slacking on nutrition training and gear. Dont see how synthol could shrink a muscle unless theirs something in synthol that literally eats away at muscle causing it to deteriorate over time. If you can find anything on that id love to read it.
Dave P. looks like hell right now. He's so f-ed up. Legs are gone, there is a video that they took while he was at the doctor..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw9aEvm4JIg
imsom12That's a bad deal he is a legend
In "extreme muscle enhancement" a doctor explains the intestines Have a ton of GH receptors so in the presence of excess Gh they literally get bigger the same can be said for other parts of your body that you cant see by the naked eye.
WeatherwedThis is a hard sport to gracefully retire from. It's sad seeing any athlete try to hang on way past their prime. Even more so with bodybuilding because of the nature of the sport revolving around your body and it's condition. Although I suppose we will all face deterioration as we age.
FoolMeOnceVery true, but theres no need to retire "gracefully" especially when your Ronnie Fucking Coleman. His hard work and past speaks for him. Regardless of how he looks now im yet to see anyone that can come near his peak physique.
WeatherwedIm specifically talking about all the threads and conversations that go on " damn have you seen ronnie lately he looks terrible".
AnonThis one actually made me a bit sad. Ronnie was always one of my favorites. His personality and charisma was and still is one of a kind. Lesson to be learned here.
FoolMeOnceAgreed. Watching his vids never gets old. Also its nice to see you commenting something nice on one of my posts for a change ;)
Dam that's crazy definitely a fine line there
SwolePatrole7Yeah a very fine fucking line. He probably used 20+ iu's per day along with insulin and extremely high doses of AAS.. Im sure I'll be fine using 4-5IU's per day of GH for 6 months. Any drug can fuck you up if you use too much of it.
Exactly all in moderation. Yeah baby! Light weight
FoolMeOnceTest N Tren FTW. Most cost effective way to put on A LOT of mass.
hahaha, Tren the poor mans drug
That wont cut it for the road im tryin to go in.. Which is fucking Pro... Im thinkin High Gh doses...slin,synthol,& peptides in the mix. It scares me sometimes how many different drugs i hav to take to at least make a dent in the sport. Lol
FoolMeOnceThat is far from the truth. Smart cycling combined with hard work and proper nutrition can take you to the top in no time. Im not going to reveal my cycle but ive gone from 198lbs 24%+bf to 212lbs 11-13%bf within 14 weeks. Ill say this that I never exceeded 1.3g's of oil a week and didnt use any peptides/insulin. Thats an estimated gain of over 25+lbs. If those results arent insane I wanna see someone who can do better in that period of time even with GH.
TONYPERKISyou can EASILY gain that amount of weight in 14 weeks are u kidding me? btw you cant make it to the top of bb in NO TIME with smart cycling, hard work and proper nutrition..hell you cant make it to the top with all the drugs in the world combined on top of what u stated...takes LOTS of time...there is NO shortcuts bro
FoolMeOnceNote the drastic change in bf. I put on around 24-27lbs of muscle with that cycle. I dont see guys on this site doing that very often. Lets just wait and see what I can accomplish in the next year.