Saved from addiction by the grace of GOD.
Ive struggled all my life with drug and alcohol addiction. It wasnt until i humbled my self enough to listen to those around me instead of getting defensive and attacking people back that i realized that i had a true problem. I woke up one morning ang realized i wasnt a father at all by deffinition and no being a sperm donor doesnt make u a dad. My parents were doing everything for my kid while i was busy feed my crack/coke and booze habbit. It was time to change. I was at a party last 4th and drinkin heavily. Last thing i remeber i was at the pool with my brother and had 2 40s duct tapped to my hands (i was playing edward 40 hands). Next thing i know i was waking up 3 days later in the icu wondering what happened and who did i kill. Scarry. I was humbled and really embarrased by this experiance and never wanted to be in those shoes again. I got into aa/na started going to church and talking to god. If it wasnt for that night a the good lord bein in my corner i probably would be dead now. Be humble. Its a mirror in itself humbleness led to cleanliness and that led me to godliness. Now i can happily say im a year clean and sober and going strong plus my relationship with my son has never been better. Thanks all goes to god and jesus i couldnt have done it with out them. God is great and so is life all because i got humble.Remember guys without god you are nothing but without you god will always be everything. Be eveything not nothing. Just you plus god equals an undefeatable army of 1.God bless youguys and happy juicing.
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Funny how the truth will always shut people up isnt it.
Your logic is flawed D what makes you think that all of those events were done by true Christians. That is like saying everyone who is on steroids is a self centered time bomb waiting to go off. Because I saw it happen to a guy on 60 minutes that took steroids thus all people who take steroids are him.
Each man should not be measured by his faith or lack there off but instead on his individual merits. Do you know how many versions of Christianity there are? So which is the correct one based solely on the teachings of Christ himself maybe one or none.
Would I sat that those who commissioned the crusades were following the teachings of Christ clearly not. Therefore they are antichrist. This is where I have to disagree with you brother.
AnonMy logic is Flawed? Disagree with me all you want, bro but disagreeing alone will not make you right.
That analogy is quite comical my brother is no where even close to what i am talking about. It would qualify as a "Red Herring". An observation that draws attention away from the central issue in an argument or discussion.Why not just make a point? When you make your point I will reply back.
You don't know what you would have done anymore than anyone else. People were small minded and would have been impressed with a wheelbarrow that had a pneumatic tire.
Now hopefully I wont have to deal with 5 or 6 people on here and you and I can get somewhere. If it turns into a bully fest I'm out.
EDIT: I don't believe in antichrist either.
So what your trying to say is you dont believe in good or evil. That sir is flawed logic. For what is good but god with an extra o. And what is evil but devil with out the d. This is proof of their existance in itself. God give thats why theres an extra o in his name satan takes away thats why the D is gone. Pretty obvious when u look at it with blinders off.
"Would I sat that those who commissioned the crusades were following the teachings of Christ clearly not. Therefore they are antichrist"
I am glad you quoted that because clearly I didn't see that, I did not word it the way I meant it. I was not talking about me sitting in on who commissioned the crusades it should have read.
I doubt that those who were sitting in on commissioning the crusades were following the teachings of Christ, clearly they were not.
Ironically I am not a religious person so I don't think I would have sat there if that was what I meant. And no one else needs to jump in on this it is a discussion between us and those who can contribute without disrespecting the other man.
I am more worried about a person who wants to forbid people from thinking the way they want or what to believe then I am the extreme terrorist who I can go and kill if there beliefs infringe on my freedom. You can yell "red herring" all you want but my point was still clear other than where I clearly wrote the wrong wording. If Christ taught go out and kill all those who will not covert to Christianity, then your point is valid. But If people who claim to be Christian follow the teachings of Christ that do not harm anyone then no I see no issue with true Christianity.
Also we can continue this somewhere else so we don't hijack the OP thread as I already have.
Ur awesome pank and sorry i chimmed in a bit already. I surely wouldnt have if i read this post first i started at the earliest and worked my way up the page. And i agree. If anyone wants to debate religion it can be done else were. I made the thread to fellowship with fellow addicts and i do know of roidnoids forum if i found it earlier the post would have went there instead of my creating my own forum but i was new so i do apologise to anyone who feels like im pushing religon on them. It was just supposed to help addicts.
Actually brother I don't believe you owe anyone an apology this is your story about your life, and I fail to see where you pushed your faith on anyone.
I feel the same way my man and the apology was for getting in the middle of their conversation when he asked that no one does. So for that i am sorry. I try to respect everyones wishes if i can. Lol honestly i wish i read that post first would have saved me some typing. Thanks bro good post ive voted to much on this thread and cant anymore the system took it away or youd get a plus 1.
Ok wait i forgot about that apology. Thanks pank and disaster.
Nah bro. This wasn't pushing anything. newuser is the one who deserves the apology.
If someone jumped in and shared how Harry Potter helped him get off drugs I'd applaud that.
Me too bro me to.
Lol expiliomous.
Me too bro me to.
Lol expiliomous.
100% Agreed!
my feeling is i come to this site to read about aas not god, not religion, not politics, if i want those ill go some where else. this stuff pollutes, angers, and will separate people. to see the direction this thread has gone is evidence of how quickly religion can inflame ppl.
No shit bro, lol i mean damn this was meant to help and inspire addict and also give a little info about me since i was new to the community now its a fucking religious debate. Good post bro. U deserve a hunderd plus 1s
I can understand that point of view and I do agree with much of it. I also think that mature intelligent people should be able to discourse with respect regardless of the subject matter and if people can't it shows a lack of their own beliefs and character. Maybe I am wrong but I don't see where this thread has gotten rude or insulting to another at least yet.
That is also why there is an "Off Topic" section here so that people can discuss things that are not necessarily aas related. Personally I like seeing different people points of view whether I agree or not I use it to try to get rid of my own bias and see if I can find truth that I have not yet discovered.
Well said bro i must say i do the same thats why ive been to bhudist muslim jewish morman and catholic churches. It helps me understand people more completely. Thats why i dont judge i just accept.
AnonYou know just when I think you are going to be a prick, you come shining through
If someone can turn their life around by calling upon God, Elvis or aliens, then I say bravo.
I'm not a believer, but I do believe in change, and I wish you well.
Gothic gets it!!!! who cares what helps you get clean and sober the fact is that people cant make true change with reguard to addiction. if they could aa na wouldnt exist. Good post my man.
Buildbigger86TRUE RESPECT FOR THAT YOUR POST ON THIS SUBJECT GOTHCI
This is a great story of overcoming and very inspiring. For me I get pissed when I see someone attacking another person's faith and I get pissed when I see a so called man of faith compelling and bullying others into his belief. The truth is people cannot prove God's existence and they can't disprove it either so therefore my opinion is let each man decide for himself what to believe and I always find interesting that most people of faith and those atheist of no faith seemingly always trying to convince and bash others for what they believe. I say if you are so confident you have the truth why be pissed at somebody's belief unless your not confident of your own.
And this my friend is what I have never seen you do. You criticize the faiths without hitting the individual that is both confidence and integrity. Also a very rare trait today for both the religious and non religious.
Gotta say i agree here too. Thats why i dont force anything on anyone i try to be kind speak from my heart and lead by example. If that helps a non believer find faith awesome if not thats fine too youll find no judgement here i love and accept everyone. Good post bro.
I look around the world and see the havok being wroght by religion and I feel peesimistic about our chances of survival as a civilized planet, so I generally implore people to examine their thoughts and beliefs----even if they're sure they are 100% right. But I never belittle the person themselves for having done something positive.
Thank you for your obsevations.
I agree too. being a chistian ill even say most chirstians in the world are judgemental fuckin idiots. Thats why i dont go to church any more. I dont need a building to have faith.
I couldn't possibly agree more with this statement!
Captain DickMcL...all im saying is
He doesnt realize hes talking about god not aliens. Read chaper 1 of ezekial where it talks about the wagon wheel turned on its side and flys through the air, has no head, looks not which way it turns, and is the color amber. (which in ancient hebrew means highly polished bronze.) For someone who lived 5000 years ago and the most advanced piece of equipment he ever saw was an ox cart ol zeke did a pretty good job describing what we call ufos. God exists in a different dimention and like to ride in style. Thats how he got back and forth back then. Hed probably still come visit if man kind hadnt turned his back to him ages ago.
Now this guy in the pic is effin hillarious he lost all credibility on dec 22 2012..
This comment goes before the one above it.
im glad to see someone get straight and sober. i hope i dont offend and im sorry if i do. im not a man of faith, i see it as yet another crutch for those who arent strong enough to find their own way. i grew up in a very religious family, and went my own way, actually being disowned by family members. i hope you stay clean and stay strong. there is a section also for these kind of posts
Judgement is gods job mine is acceptance there for no one truely offends me. I might get upset from time to time over people acting a damn fool but who doesnt. When i do a few deep breaths and a quick prayer and bam im all smiles again. Also im sorry u lost ur faith ill bet something was fored uopn you and it rubbed you the wrong way so u get turned off religion. I see it all the time in folk from countries where they are MADE to practice religion and its sad but its all good god will reveal himself in his time homie not yours. His will is supreme and mans is but a dream. Thanks thou for the kind word sobriety is the best high in the world well actually its a close second to a close walk with god. And i know now about the aa na forum that roid noid started but i didnt find it till well after this was posted thats why its in the off topic thread so it belongs here just the same. In my opinion the more places addicts have to talk the better. I gotta say i half agree with about faith being a crutch. Have you ever read the footprints? Crutches carry you just like jesus does. Im actually thankful for my time as an addict. My body is like the proverbial gold and addiction is the smelting cup on the fire. U need fire to purify gold and i most def have been poured out a more pure form than i was when i went in the cup. U dont realize it now but your in the cup and on the flame ypuself bro. I truely believe youll find your faith again but only when god ready for u too then hell puor u out. Stay clean and sober bro. Ill be praying for you. God bless
There is a higher "god" self you become aware of when you sink to such despair that you completely surrender your ego, self, or more aptly put, image of self.
It is pure, spiritual, and has nothing to do with religion and the many forms it comes in. You feel connected to a larger self that one can only describe as god for lack of a better word.
Newuser has been given a gift even greater than his sobriety.
I too grew up in a large roman catholic family who attended mass every week and went to catholic school.
As soon as I was an adult I dropped that shit like a hot potato. I thought as you do.
Thanks greg you also prove the point i made about folks losing faith cuz its forced upon you the wrong way and the catholic chuch forces alot on you . Hell im not even acepted in most catholic churches because im divorced but it dosnt bug me im a christian lol. Ur rite there is a higher god and a greater self. Your also correct about my being blessed greater than sobriety and thats with faith. Im greatful for my faith and the privledge to be able to serve my god and i hold nothing against those without faith mof i pray for em. Even the faithless are my brothers and sister. I love em all the same as i love my son. Thanks for goin to bat for me bro im confident that when the good lord needs another good soldier in his army hell call u up but it will all be in his time and at his will. God bless you greg. Plus 1 bro
Keep going in your path of humbled greatness. Its nice and feels great to see someone take steps closer to god and family relationships. Your brave for making needed changes in your life and for sharing it with us all. Don't let simple things slow you down or make you give up on your progress. Be humble but also "Let your light so shine before all man so that he may see your good works and glorify your father in heaven." Sorry to quote some scripture but you can every now and then roar when your doing awesome, which it seems like you are now doing great. It just becomes a problem when the mistakes and bad deeds pile up. It seems you've learned a lot in life, Thanks for the hope you inspire!
U dont have to apologise for quoting . M.o.f. dont ever apologise for that. Scripture plants seed that god can make bloom at his will. Keep it up bro. And i totally agree about learning alot cuz i have the hard way . Life is a creul teacher she gives u the test before the lesson. With age comes wisdom if it didnt theres no point to getting old lol. Your also 100% correct about works . Faith without works is dead. See u got me quotin scripture now lol god is great and i owe him everything id probably be dead if it wasnt for him. Im still kickin so that mean he still has work for me to get done. Someone plus one v for me my voting privlidges are still down cuz i got carried away trying to pay it forward yesterday lol. Thanks again v keep it up bro and god bless u and yours
WeatherwedGood for you. Whatever works. For me personally I sobered up with the "god" route. It was only a temporary fix. Eventually I realized it was just a new mantra I adopted rather than discovering my true self. Wasn't long before I used again. Nothing against religion just be careful to make sure your sobriety is based on something that is concrete to you personally.
Fully get ya there bro and god is my rock ive tried other methods too i used again also. God church religion is what worked for me. Not knockin anyone who found other ways to get clean. Clean and sober is clean and sober no matter how u get there. Different strokes for different folks. Any one who has fought that fight and won has full respect in my book. Thanks for the reply bro keep it up.
WeatherwedAnd what gets you there doesnt have to be what keeps you there. Realizing I was losing my parents- who stuck with me through everything from being kicked out of day care to a 30 felony case- was what got me sober. After being sober for long enough all those little things that make sober life awesome kept me sober. That and self improvement. One thing successful sober people learn is how to cut the things out of their life that arent productive.
So very true my brother and ur right i have many safe guards in place to keep me from relapsing. And wow seems like you went through so much more than i did but what we did doesnt matter so much as what we do now. Keep up the good fight and remember man im here if u ever need someone. I might be offline but ill get on to check my comments and messages when i get the email notices even if im asleep just in case someone is in need of a friend. Also my voting are temp down cuz i up voted a bit to much to day but when i get it back plus 1 for the honesty and kind comments bro. God bless have a great nite and keep up the the fight my man.
Buildbigger86God bless you my man!!! Your doing great keep it up plus 1
Thanks again bb ur a good eroid fam member. Its good to have u in my corner.
God bless
Thanks bro same to you and yours
Hey theres an NA thread in the forums,Welcome.Im working on 9 yrs brother.
Thanks house. I love the tv show too btw i was sad to see it end. And i found the aa na forum like 5 mins after making this forum i ve been commenting on roid noids forum and made reference to here for my story so i didnt have to re type it all. Wow nine yrs your truly blessed by god my friend i hope no plan on being there my self some day. God bless u house and keep fighting the good fight
Good job getting clean homie. One day at a time.
Thanks bro true dat one day at a time 1 step at a time.
Congratulations on your sobriety.
Thanks bro. The glory is all gods im but a humble servant. Its def a day to day strugle and anyone with addiction can attest to that. God is great.
God blees you bro.