+ 2 Just Pinned
For a guy who is a complete needle phobe and has never really injected into a muscle on his own, I can say at this point I DID IT. I know that it may seem like a stupid post but have to tell anyone that is new to cycles and pinning that YOU CAN do it! About 16 hours ago I had everything drawn up and ready to go and spent a good hour trying to convince myself but to no avail.
This evening after work I again tried and couldn't get the nerve so read some posts started by people like me and the one thing that stood out was "Don't be a p****y and just DO IT!" so I took that to heart. I used a technique that maybe is bad but I remember seeing on Youtube someone saying to bounce very slowly the needle and guess what, I felt NOTHING. Not a thing. As I looked down at my leg with this needle hanging out of it I was amazed. I'm still shaking make no mistake about it but I think the hard part is over.
The only real thing that I'm worried about is that I pulled and got no flow of blood but noticed a bit of blood at the tip of the needle hub. I was pulling about every 1/10th of a ml (out of fear of getting in a vein) and not a single stream of blood. I'm figuring this is just blood from it initially going in. In any event, I guess I'm officially part of the club and am grateful for all the advice I got (it will be an all test first cycle). I'm not just saying this but Eroids is the best spot to get advice and info about our sport!
It was Test E btw. 1ml of 250mg/ml. I guess my next pinning will be in about 3 days. I think I'll be better the second time.
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Just noticed all these comments to my post after looking around and want to say THANK YOU all for the comments. I feel a bit better pinning which is odd since I'm normally a messed up ball of anxiety when I think of needles. LOL.
I like to workout after pinning sometime afterwords before sleep!
Great for absorption!
agreed, working out after pinning works for me too
Great!
Glad it went perfect!
Always wash your hands before!
Best luck!
GATOR
Our brains/DNA is designed to survive. And stabbing ourselves with anything goes completely against our survival instincts. Our brains tell us not to hurt ourselves. This is our Reptilian complex. It's one of three levels in our brains. We have to tap into our Neomammalian complex or cerebral neocortex in order to overcome our primal drivers for survival. It's one area of the brain vs. another, and the Reptilian complex had the advantage. This is why it's difficult to stick ourselves. It's great to finally overcome this resistance. Self-talk is psychologically about the only way that we can get it done. Congratulations.
RustyhookerIf you pin quads...my fav spot....sit down. Relaxed helps a lot.
I remember my first pin. Did the bounce wiggle......sweating like a crack fiend. Took an hour to get it done. Afterwards....wow! That wasn't bad! I still sweat on pin day...dunno why but it's been many years and it's still just odd. Lol
Ha, I am the same way. I really don't have any fear of it but as soon as that needles out the sweat commences pouring.
I'm a pussy to pin quads for some reason!
Lol
RustyhookerIts my favorite spot....25x1 doesnt hurt if all the heating etc done. Like mentioned above it's just not natural to stab ourselves. Lol! Try with no pip long Esters and you'll love it. I did find that if i pin while sitting...pin at 1:00 position. Its like butter typically. Further lateral at 3...can be not so fun. More nerves there for me.
When you're oncall...check out how the peds get their pins as well. Intermedius is sweet! Even with pippy gear its relatively painless. 1.5 cc of prop etc....all sweet.
^Me too bro!
Sometime just suddenly covered in sweat and its right after I pin, during or even sometimes as I withdrawal the fluid!
It's a serious thing and I think I have mild panic attack about the prep sometimes!
And I have done plenty of shots but even it happens still on occasion, maybe 3/10 shots!
But now lately I have all pipless gear and its out of shower, pin , gtg!
Gator
Rustyhooker^^^ shower then pin. Oh yess!!
sgtstedankoRemember to use 23-25 ga needles & push the oil in slowly. slow... Have fun bubba.
Oh & try ventro Glute.
agreed!
Perfect size 23-25g!
I like to use 25g 1.5in dorso Glute!
Or 1in 23g Delt shots.
Other then that I guess sometimes 1mL,29g 0.5in for sub Q.
Those are the best sizes!
Gator
Just completed my second pinning. I tried the left quad but for some reason it was more painful. I couldn't pull on the plunger I think because I was still a bit nervous. It felt like a dull pain as the needle was just sitting in my leg. So I did my right quad again but farther up and it was again painless. I know I'll need to rotate but damn if on the left side (I'm right handed) I couldn't get comfortable.
I promise not to update every pinning but maybe if this helps a noob like me then maybe its worth it. I wanted to at least put down my experience as a noob and doing his first rotation of Test E. (250mg/ml on Saturday night and 250mg/ml today in the am)
As an update, I have the meanest charlie horse in my thigh where I injected. I'm not too worried about it but damn if it doesn't keep me from comfortably walking. Is this normal for a virgin muscle inject?
yep! completely normal.. you'll get used to it.
i've been injecting everyday for the last 10 weeks and only get post injection pain very rarely
Thanks brothah! Its good to know. Tomorrow I do my second injection of the week and will update my post then. Doing a 1ml injection of Test E 250mg tomorrow. Not sure if I should do the other quad or stay with the same side. Would hate to not be able to walk at all LOL.
Do the other side tomorrow. Try massaging the area to reduce the pip.
Thanks battmann!
Congrats man! I had a severe needle phobia before my first cycle (which I'm on right now, coincidentally). What worked for me was simply resting the needle against my skin and pushing slowly. It hurts a lot more, but for some reason a quick poke seems worse to me psychologically. I would rather endure the slight pain of slowly injecting a 25 gauge needle. For reference, I always pin my quads. I tried my glutes but I found the positioning annoying.
And now I don't have any needle phobia at all! I love it. Part of life is conquering your fears, and I can't wait to conquer new ones. I'm actually excited about trying my melanotan-ii injections, subcutaneously, in a pinch of fat in my abdomen.
A slight critique - I don't think you actually have you aspirate your needle until it is fully injected. As far as I know, it is fine to pin through a vein and into muscle tissue. You just don't want to intravenously inject testosterone oil, lol. Experts, please correct me if I am wrong about this.
I hope to be fully free of my phobia. I honestly feel alot better about my second shot in a couple of days. Honestly, bouncing the needle in really didn't hurt at all. At this point I do have a bit of a charlie horse but figure thats normal. I am confused though when people say "No Pip." Is my pip due to being injected in a virgin muscle and later on I will be able to truly realize if there is no pip or pip on injection?
Yeah bro, I think you always get pip in virgin muscle - even if the gear is cooked really smooth. Now, with my Matrix Test Enanthate 300, I have no pain at all from my last injection, which was 2 days ago, Friday. I pin Tuesdays and Fridays now.
I think most tests are pretty smooth, unless somebody's trying to put a ridiculously high amount of test per ml. Tren acetate seems painful.
The other thing I'd say is inject slowly...take your time. Injecting quick can cause pip.
Thanks for the advice. I think this first time my hands were shaking pretty badly so maybe that could be it also. LOL. Plus I was going way over board on pulling back on the plunger. I was so paranoid about hitting a vein. I guess just like the first time you drive you tend to be super nervous but after time you don't even remember how you got from point A to point B. I think it'll be the same with pinning. Against Thanks!
Welcome aboard soldier! Lol. It's a crazy ride but I think you'll enjoy it.
Thank you sir!
You are now corrupt, Welcome to the dark side.....
I should get "I have been welcomed to the Dark side" tattooed on my arm! Thanks bro!
Good job man, you have nothing to worry about with the blood
Thanks Brothah. At this point it feels like a small charlie horse but I am a bit proud of myself. I remember saying to friends that if I ever became diabetic I would likely die because I would NEVER be able to inject the insulin. I guess I was wrong. LOL
I did the quad.
Yea my first cycle was quad E3D, by week six my legs were always aching. Discovered and tried new muscles to pin and in time my muscles got used to the needle. Now I hardly even get PIP anymore. Well good job again man, not only are you gonna transform ( 1st cycle always creates best results) but you conquered a fear.. Over all considered a good day.
Your right Infidel! I actually feel like I'm walking a cloud right now. I know I know, a bit over dramatic but if you had any idea how freaking unbelievably fearful of needles I am then you'd understand. LOL. Can't wait to be able to say to someone "I hardly even get PIP anymore."
lol i find the longer you think about and hesitate the more it will hurt, im doing a heavy cycle at the moment and get occasional pip. the other day i just walked in drew it up and pinned it all over in 2 mins and didnt feel it and no pip, i think sometimes its the mind state!! good stuff bro!!
Thanks man! It is all mental and I can say that I didn't have the mental toughness initially but now feel that I definitely can do this and can't wait to see some results!