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So I just got off the road and was reading Anabolics by William Llewellyn and there is some pretty interesting info in there (and with cited sources!) that kills alot of bro science you hear on the web. So I continued to keep reading after I read over these and here are a few of them:

  1. Eq and Anadrol do not increase red blood cell count any more than any other AAS we take to cycle

  2. Dbol (Methandrostenolone) is alkylated boldenone (Oral Equipoise) yet doesn't exhibit the same enhancements as EQ

  3. Nandrolones are the least androgenic compounds (yes even compared to Primobolan)

  4. Winny, primo and anavar are actually not the safest to take for females despite bro science (see #3)

What you guys think? pretty sure some of you guys knew this already but was pretty eye opening to me. Discuss

kwabby6's picture

You have a link where I can read that specifically?

j223's picture

Here's one. Includes primo, anadrol, and testosterone

http://ebm.rsmjournals.com/content/125/4/1030.abstract

anadrol study - it's effect on blood cells when testosterone and other anabolics failed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/686041

kwabby6's picture

thanks. Interesting. Alot of conflicting evidence. Yours is saying it does increase red blood cell count vastly in comparison to testosterone but doesn't claim by how much. Mine is also claim it does but not at a level that is significant to warrant the claim. Interesting.

j223's picture

if you pulled up the full study I'm sure it would give the exact numbers. That link was just an abstract

kwabby6's picture

yeah I tried to and they wanted me to pay of course lol wasn't going for that but given their conclusion was what it was, im sure it was a significant increase.

j223's picture

another very strange but interesting study lol on anadrol
http://binf-app.host.ualr.edu/~axsingh/images/antiradiation/hosseinimehr...

I guess this study they were exposing the rats to radiation until they died. The radiation caused damage to the bone marrow stem cells. This caused reduced blood cell production. They also treated a group of mice with oxymetholone and the mice on oxy's were more resistant to the radiation because of the increased red blood cell production and platelets.
Basically oxymethylone had a specific effect on increasing RBC which is why it is chosen to treat certain types of anemia.

kwabby6's picture

thanks for that as well.

ReadyToKillIt's picture

Well, I never bought into #1 as I never saw any evidence to back it up. Nothing amazing about their structure that would lead one to believe they actually had more of impact on the circulatory system than any other aas. #2 is no shock either, just look at superdrol (oral masteron). The 2 compounds couldn't be more different. Why wouldn't a compound act differently when you change (however minor) the chemical structure. #s 3 and 4 are new to me. Good topic.

kwabby6's picture

Yeah I as well for number #1. I knew about superdrol but for some reason the Dbol one surprised me. I thought it would be closer to M1T for some reason but oral Eq? Thats new to me. and yeah its amazing what a simple slight alteration to chemical structure does. Dont think many people realize just how structurally identical Testosterone is to Estrogen. There was some interesting stuff in there too about not tanking estro like alot of guys do unless need be. Also #3 and 4# was new to me as well. Oh well only on page 94. Gonna see what else comes up

j223's picture

other way around. Dbol came first. They tried to make an injectible version of dbol and EQ was the result. Not exactly dbol but it's still a good steroid Smile