+ 5 I can see now why no one ever admits they juice
People always seem to throw it back at you one way or another. Whether its a friend, wife, girlfriend or family.
Seems like every one of the few people I have told, now after enough time have all gotten a jab in here and there.
Make a comment about someone being fat and out of shape, and your friend says " Well he could look like you if he was juicing "
Get pissed off at something or someone, and then all of a sudden " Those roids make you so angry "
Or when your natty friend is having an off night and cant push his weights up , he says " Well this kind of thing happens to guys that arent juicing "
I was so happy with how I felt when I first started using ,I made the mistake of telling a few people, four to be exact . I wish I never had. Of course one of them is my wife and she has to know, but yes even she has made a remark or two .
I hate living with what I feel is a secret, but given the level of acceptance and how people use it to burn you later , I wont share this with anyone ever again. A huge part of why forums like this and friends within them have almost become more important in my life than the ones I see regularly.
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AnonKeep your head up! You got your Juicing family right here. Except me.. I'm not juicing yet.
I'm a wittle munchkin.
I haven't even started cycling yet and some people assume I'm on it. I only weigh 180 at 5'11 but get told I look heavier (In a good way). I've been approached and asked things like "F#*k man, work out much ;)" I just reply with "Nah but just wait till I actually do ;)" When I do start only a select few people will know.
I'm with you bro. I have only told 2 people. One friend that I know would never toss it back in my face and simply because he has done it before and I never judged him. The other is my wife and she threw that in my face a couple of times during a fight. Yeah I know, married couples never have heated fights. LOL
That shit pissed me off to no end and then it made me feel a bit guilty like she is looking down on me but in the end, I don't really care. I'm doing this because I WANT TO. not for anybody else.
I hate lying about it and I want to tell everyone how great it is. Good thing I don't drink otherwise I'd probably blab it all over. LOL
Great post Novi and you are so right. We also felt so awesome that we wanted to share, no good deed goes unpunished.
At the same time, maybe our wanting to be honest with people could also have helped a few other bro's that just aren't feeling like their old self.
YA I told a few folks to brother my Ex and she was scared ,but ok in a since and now we broke uo and she still loves me so keeps it a secret. Also me and my Gm at work are brother so i told him and then he was a dick and told everyone customer that im cool with and everyone else in the kitchen. So everytime my phone goes off from a text he's like it must be time for you to inject those roids son. Then whe Im come into work and the back hurts from pushing weight he's like why do you hurt your on roids. I just hate when ppl don't get it and understand I work out just as hard if not harder than a reg joe in the gym cause i have faster recov time and some what of a boost i guess you could say. In the end I do the work and harder and more strict than an everyday joe that walks in. Just hate dumb fucks that thinks roids make you blow up over night without puttin that time in.
Not sure why you would EVER tell anyone at your workplace that you are on juice? IMO thats a bad idea no matter who it is.
Hey buddy, the real issue is when people want to justify themselves in a disagreement they will use anything to prove their so called point that you are wrong rather than the facts about the subject itself. Because if when you first told them and they good with it or even "happy for you", then it isn't the steroids it is their pride because you pissed them off now everything you do is wrong. Just ask them hey when you thanked me the other day and told me how wonderful I was, well I was on the steroids then too.
Just remember that line from Bigger, Stronger, Faster: "Everybody uses drugs so why is everybody so worried about mine?" (in those term). Dont worry about who you tell bro. Its not you its them. You have to remember that the general perception on AAS is a negative one. Why? Because people thing you "Cheat" to get bigger as if we're all in some race to see who can be the biggest fastest...Also coupled with the fact that there's needles involved which alot of people have a phobia of, makes it seem even more taboo. Once you start mentioning orals, people seem to suddenly take interest. All I can say is don't try to fight them with facts. it'll only get nowhere.
Just try to not let it bother you man when friends and family make dumb comments. I just joke around when someone asks me if I take steroids. I just tell them - yep, I just had a bowl of steroids for breakfast today!!! Make it into a joke so that way your not in some awkward conversation. Plus they never know how to respond when you flip it into a joke. Then you flee the scene... lol
thats a good way to go about it, my family has never asked about it, if my brother ever asked me flat out, I'd tell him, my parents not a chance, I think I would use your humour approach and brush it off.
I had this problem with MT-2. I told half the people I was talking to at the bar over the course of a couple months, which is at least 60 people. People still give me shit about it. lol
some guys posted some really good feedback so far, i really like the concept of just turning it into a joke and just havng comebacks for it. i dont really hide it at all, lots of people know. i go to NA mtgs (like AA but for street drugs) and peeps tend to spread anything new like wildfire, so i get approached about it a lot. matter of fact just last night my buddy said something loud as hell about it and i dont even care anymore to be honest - i responded with "fuck yea butt shots for like bro, except i dont shoot it in my butt i shoot em straight into my dickhole! i just laugh it off, and whenever seriously approached i ha e very little problem telling people minus the fact that they then become very interested and steer the convo towards doing it too. i calmly say if you can get it, by all means, but it wont be from me so dont ask.
people will always use misunderstanding, ignorance, and baseless judgements as ammunition against us in arguements or fights whether they know we're runnin or not - when they know it just becomes the easiest go to. for me i expect it therefore am prepared for it when it gets thrown in my face, and because i expect and am ready for it i can be cool and not get heated, then laugh that shit off. i kniw they dont understand what theyre sayng and its born of ignorance, so i give em a pass because they dont know any better.
one last thing, if its not AAS that gets thrown in our face, its gonna be something else we do! its all about how you deal with conflict and what you believe deep down about your use - if its not wrong then who the fuck cares what they say about it? dont let anybody get to you or bring you down brothers!
AnonI actually don't mind telling folks. I am what I am and strictly only surround myself with very very few. I'm a bit of a loner in life. I have zero friends I have brothers. If they judge me then that's the last time I will ever surround myself with them. My wife is my biggest supporter and confidant. I've got a sharp mouth and a temper to match. So let somebody say something:)
I only worry about my next meal and next session in The gym. That's what drives me. I'm on a mission. Bitches and woofers can lick my shitty ass!
HELL YES!!
AnonI dont really care what people think, its more the idea you tell someone something and they use it against you . It seems like no matter what this is something that everyone will eventually use against you in one way or another.
are we talking mostly women? Women are NOTORIOUS for that. even aside from AAS. They will bring up something that happened 5 years ago in an argument that was never an issue lol.
I understand exactly where you're coming from. This is also why I really don't care for my wife to know cause you know if you ever go through a divorce and there's a custody dispute that shits gonna come back to bite you in the ass. And before y'all get on my ass for not telling my wife, I haven't lied to her.. She's never asked, lol
this is why im all natty
yeah.. me too lol
I just say some prohormone that's flyin around the market at the time and send then to the local supplement store and let them deal with it lol. Or ill just throw a large amount of calories their way and let them try and grasp the amount of eating it would require to gain the size. 9/10 they accept that response.
Fuck everybody on what they think. Your in the gym to work on yourself. Your not their to deal with other people and the insecurities. My girlfriend knows I take steroids and I told her going into the relationship. So shes cool. I don't have any anger issues or bad sides so she doesn't make remarks. But we will see when my first tren run comes up soon. But people like my parents cant be told because they don't understand. But that's cool. So who cares people are always gona run their mouths. Were on a different level than these peeps.
Like the song says..... *** YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUTA MY MOUTH***
Welcome to level 1 brother
Hey thanks. Much appreciated
I saw a t-shirt that said "No I'm not on steroids but thanks for asking"
I need this shirt for my 140lb friend XD
no joke when someone i really dont know ask me what im on, I say "peanut butter and creatine!" and i walk away from them lol, my friends at the gym laugh when they hear me say it.
AnonWhat about the one where your peps are like those muscles are fake ! Wtf how are tey fake I just my ass in gym
Buildbigger86What about the dudes who are not even really big and not knocking anyone not big because we started like that but i find it funny when you see them flexing after every single set in the mirror
AnonYou been watching me bra at my gym ? I flex in mirror : )
Buildbigger86Fuck it see, say be like me take some synthol you will love it lol
AnonHe'll no synthol
What pisses me off more than anything is the people that randomly walk up to you and are like are you natural? What are you stacking? I just put my headphones back on and resume working. I wanna be an ass and say something like more work and determination than you will ever have. I love the people that think just bc u give yourself a shot u are gonna turn into the next mr. O
Buildbigger86Level i wrote a whole forum about this, how randoms you do just come up to ask what your talking and shit im like dude im lifting please let me get back to my work.
But me and celtic came up with a good plan when this happens again to me. I am going to tell them i drink 1 gallon of cellur a day and 10 bear 5000 calories shakes a day. I can't wait to see if some one buys it and try's it and walk in the and put on 25 pounds of fat and insane bloat lol
It is mostly due to ignorance or jealously, just take it with a grain of salt pal.
Buildbigger86more jealously i think but i have come across just straight up ignorant people as well. The ignorant ones are usually like 20 years who stand by me while i lift and just watch and then come up and like dude you look good man. What you running these, mind you i have no clue who these kids are lol. I just walk away and say i am natural and work hard but some of them still dont get point and will follow you to your next workout and be like come on man im cool bro. Fill me in man. I would to grab some sauce from you... i try to stay calm but usually jump up super fast from bench and say i do not do sauce nor do i sell it. Please walk away and let me work out and please if you see me never approach me again.
Fuck em.Fuck em all.You just need to get better at your comebacks,that's all.When someone says something,belittle them in a calm,professional manner.lol My woman has said shit before.I just informed her that I was big enough to hold her down and stick it in her ass!The comment about someone fat looking like you if they juiced.You and I both know that no amount of juice is going to stop someone from being lazy and having bad eating habits.My buddy on trt has said things to me when I'm on a blast.He doesn't blast and will say things like "I would be as big as you if I did a blast.And I will say "You will never be as big as me no matter what,because your a little bitch!" Just have fun with it.
hahahaha, you just made me bust a gut. I usually try to come up with something witty also.
My girl has actually never thrown it back at me, she has actually absorbed a lot of the info I tell her, a few weeks back she said "you look puffy, did you take your AI?" Not gonna lie, that gave me wood lol.
Lol. Wish everybody could be as cool as that
I feel you brother! Ive been accused of juicing when i wasnt juicing and accused while I was juicing. Its a no win situation. Its always the people close to me too that pop off and they make little remarks. You still got to have the dedication, knowledge, the know-how and the drive. Juice plays a very little role. I personally do low doses for this very reason! Haters are gonna hate!
I just started AAS last fall so needless to say it's becoming kinda obvious at this point. But the bottom line is that those remarks are made in ignorance.
I've have ran two compounds at this point, test and tbol. I can't say that either one has made the hard work easier. I would say that I work harder now then before I started. But this is from simple motivation. We live this lifestyle for the results. AAS just produces more results from all the hard work we put in.
Exactly! I too have only told a few people, my gf of 8 years and two friends, one of whom I no longer am aquainted with. He has recently taken it upon himself to tell several people of my use, that doesnt bother me so much, its that he attributes all my progress I have ever made to juie. I lost 65lbs naturally before I ever used juice, I then worked out steady for several years making decent gains without juice, and lets not get into the time put into the kitchen.... oh well, whatever makes him feel better about his 300lb obese self.
From here on out my use is kept to a need-to-know basis ..... and as far as I am concerned, a significant other and my doctor are the only people that need to know.
Yup, I agree. Lucky for me not many ppl know and my physical appearance doesn't change drastically so there's no suspicion. But those who do know have definitely thrown darts my way. In the exact context you describe. It's mostly if/when I'm pissed or in the gym pushing ridiculous amounts of weight for a smaller guy. To the people who think that if they juice they can achieve what I have without putting in the work,.....I say go ahead. Try it. I'll give you a bottle and you keep doing what you do. Sit on the couch for 6 hours a night. Eat like a fat kid. Don't work out. Drink a 12 pack every night. You keep doing all that and lets see how you transform in 10 weeks. AAS is a tool. Nothing more. If you're a douchebag off AAS ,you're gonna be a bigger douche on it. If you don't put in the work, you won't see any results. Bottom line. So I say don't even bother telling anyone. Fuck em. They don't need to know.
Buildbigger86While i am ranting going off on this whole topic. I am just go tell everyone if you want to like to take synthol. Youll see how fast they will learn lol
Buildbigger86I love NOTING more when people who never work out decided to run test eth or Cyp so that they will motivated to go to gym. They usually lift for about 3 days and then stop and just eat and eat and eat and just get so bloated and fat. It's hilarious.
Also some people who do that actually like the way the look because of all the water retention make them looks so much bigger but it is bulk undefined muscle filled with water lol.
Buildbigger86Thats because you were a boxer and after looking at your pics your huge but so ripped and toned with dense muscle mass that even when you lose a few lb's no one can notice except youself.
100% truth!
the whole " its because of the juice " is the most frustrating part.
Buildbigger86I think of it like this and bear with me. 75% IS your diet. 40-50% is how hard you train. And what gear does does for you is give you a 40-50% percent boost in muscle gains. But to achieve all of these you need to do all the 3 things i named above.
What i love about gear is the scientific side of it. How you can try for 2 years like a mad man and get good gains but if you add gear in you can accomplish in 4 months what would take you a year or two to achieve those goals.
AAS's are a tool and an additional boost for our workouts which give you drastically faster gains if you eat correct and train correct you can use it as a great advantage.
But people who think sauce is this magical thing were you can just take it and party and rarely work and eat bad that you will still look great. SOOO WRONG.
You need to apply all the factors together to get really what you want.