+ 3 var and a hysterectomy
so i took my first var 5mg yesterday morning. i realized by mid afternoon i was really sensitive to it, it was tolerable. i actually had horrible hunger pains, and just felt off. so so i told mwagner630 when he got home. after we talked for a few minutes, we realized im at a huge disadvantage or advantage in the female aas game. i have had a complete hysterectomy so i lack my own hormones to any real degree, which makes me sensitive to any i take. so i think this will be quite a learning experience for me. i havent found much at all on female AAS use and complete hysterectomy. so i will update as i go on how i feel, gains, sides, and general well being. i have went down to 2.5mg in the am and pm i will taper up to 10mg over the next few days but i seem to be adjusting well and feeling good.
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I cam home today. Im sore and ive got a while before i can get back in the gym, but im just glad to be home. thank you for all the support.
Feel you on that! Me too! Just out!
Best wishes in healing!
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my wonderful wife and partner mwagsgurly has been admitted to the hospital. she came back strong and good, looking great and feeling great. she truly wanted to get back in the best possible shape for next surgery. there has been some minor complications on the way, but today we found out they are reversing her ostomy and going to repair her previous surgical scars to make her belly look better. this is a dream come true for her, i believe her getting back to the gym and the anavar was the sole reason for her healing so well and so fast. this surgery is 6 months earlier than first anticipated.
thoughts and prayers for her fast and timely return please
AnonMan that girl is tough as hell. I never see her on here complaining and that has got to hurt like hell. I have her in my thoughts bro and I'm hoping for a speedy recovery.
Please tell her we are thinking of her. I am sure that she will be up and at it in no time so make sure that you keep on her to take it easy and that the gym will be welcoming her back with open arm just like we will. Very happy to hear that she's getting something she wished for, and that will make her feel better about herself. Like Grrrl said, she's family now.
You are a good man for telling us know and keeping us updated.. we will keep you in our prayers as well.. you are her rock and support.
thanks for letting us know.. tell her we are thinking about her and wish her well.. Please keep us updated with her progress.. She's family now ;-)
You have a very strong wife there and she has a wonderful, loving husband. My thoughts are with you both and my prayers are with you both. I wish your beautiful wife a very speedy recovery and I can't wait to see your post telling us she is healthy and feeling great ;)
for everyone who posted in response, thank you. she is going through lots of tests for the next few days, than she is scheduled in for surgery on tuesday morning. shes feeling high spirited and over all good. shes really looking forward to this surgery. its some of the best news we have had since this has began. we both look forward to her life returning to as close to normal as possible. she is my rock and my heart. she is what keeps our home together and strong. she is the most fragile person ive ever known with so much strength she could conquer the world. she is my wife and i am proud of her.
I agree with heart... Your words are beautiful.. Gave me cold chills. Lots of prayers for you both.
Beautiful words.
I wish her all the luck in the world.
i have learned the hard way dealing with this. since i have no ovaries, adding hormones and my bodies lack of hormone and regulating ability, conversion is rapid and high for me. so basically, with a complete hysterectomy you need to take aromasin daily to control test>estrogen conversion and the sides from it. the first noticeable side is water retention, it comes on fast and pretty severe for me, next is emotional mood swings. i havent cried like that since i was pregnant lol than comes the pimples. but if i take 6.25mg a day of aromasin i have no problems. oh this is my last week of the cycle.
we had a little set back this past week, seems I was having some water issues again, but mwagner630 gave me some aro 12.5 for a few days got me straight, now im on 6.25mg aro EOD and all seems good. its slow going, im putting on muscle but slowly. i have been feeling a lot better and seems i am healing up great.
Glad things are back on track for you ;)
new update. all is great. putting good clean weight on. leaning out and putting on some muscle. up about 8 pounds. i need to check my body fat to see exactly what gains ive made.
Thumbs up to you girly! Good work ;)
excellent keep it up ;-)
well things have been going really well, im up 6 pounds, feeling great. eating well. energy is out of this world. my sex drive is amazing too. i love it so far. only thing is this week i have to go back in the hospital for 4-8 days to me monitored for a few things, im not really sure what to do. ill figure it out though.
thanks ladies for everything
Pleased you are having great gains ;) Sorry to hear you are due to spend time in hospital. Hope all goes well and will be wishing you a speedy return to training.
*****UPDATE****
i wouldve just posted the update under her SN but she cut me taters off lol
she skipped a dose and than went with a quarter from there 2Xday, also is taking 6mg aromasin ED and water is gone. looks like with none of her own hormones she has sides quick and unpredictably but we are figuring it out. she goes for blood work on next wednesday with me
Thats great thx for the update. I thought cutting back would help. Good plan to get the bloodwork. I'd be surprised if the AI was making a difference.
Interesting topic.
There has been significant study on the role/need of HRT-primarily estrogen in women who undergo removal of both ovaries (oopherectomy w or w/o hysterectomy). The ovaries are the main sex hormone producing organs in women but not the only one. The adrenal glands also have a role and likely respond by making a little more. That said, women only make 1/20th the testosterone that men make anyway so that small loss of test isnt considered noticeable/ significant to most women by most doctors. The main lower test symptoms reported are loss of libido.
In the few studies addressing the role of tRT in women, those given topical test reported overall better well-being, more energy and sig improved libido and sex life. tRT is not advocated more in women because only about 10-20% of women, generally >40 y/o after oopherectomies when asked care about sex and how aroused they get or satisfied they are. Further there is alot of reluctance to give test to women because the bad sides/virilizing effects like unwanted facial hair, or getting a dude-voice are really bothersome to women- more than the perceived benefits and may be irreversible. Some studies suggest improved bone and cardiovascular health with tRT but this is not really been backed up.
The only thing I would guess you will find in regards to AAS/ bodybuilding after oopherectomy will be anecdotal from the few women in that specific situation and there will be unique factors in play for a given individual. I would predict the management and regulation of your estrogen would be hard to predict and more complicated. If you are taking HRT-estrogen I think you should tell your doctor about the anavar use so they can adjust and monitor you appropriately. But in terms of how the anavar will perform, since women make so little test anyway, I would expect it would not be too extremely different than a woman with her ovaries, esp if you did not display sig low test signs- like really low libido before you started the var.
But I'm curious and I'd like to FR you and would appreciate to hear how things go for you if thats ok
I was on hormone replacement prior to starting aas cycles and since I ve been cycling I have not needed any of it in several years however, I did not have a hysterectomy ..
The uterus doesnt make hormones, it just responds to them. The sex hormones are primarily made in the ovaries. The OP said she had a complete hysterectomy which includes removing the tubes and ovaries with the uterus. Depending on what you are taking some of it will convert to estrogens and hence the HRT may be not needed.
NO... really? Thanks for the info on my uterus and ovaries.. I realize that the OP said she had a fulll hysterectomy hence my comment indicating that I did not have one .. .. and thanks I figured out that some aas will convert to estrogens, especially deca which is a progestin ..
okay, so i was thinking this same thing, and i posted earlier that i was retaining water. i was wondering if this would be the cause of the water retention.. what are your thought? i was thinking of taking a dose of a aromasin to see if it helps with the water.
Real anavar is a DHT derivative and does not aromatize. Are you taking HRT? Maybe your AAS use is reducing your estro metabolism/ breakdown?
just because var is a dht derivative and absolutely does not aromatize does not mean that it does't cause water retention through some other mechanism .. ALL the women I have spoken with have said they held water while running var..
i have been looking all over today online and from what i have read many women retain water on var, seems to be pretty common from what ive seen
I am currently in my 4th week and I have water retention... everything I read before started said that was a possible side...
I'm on my third week of var and I definitely have water retention. Not liking it, but hey, you can't have everything!
i give her total credit. she went in to the gym today and busted ass. she is totally motivated. she is spending time learning and figuring her body out, the right way. i really expected a million questions everyday but she takes it upon herself to figure things out, i see her posts shes been doing and im even more impressed with how much she has learned.
oh quit kissing my ass, you just want ass lol
By far the best wife comment EVER!
AnonI hope all is well in the end ! Stay safe and good luck
all is going great, im up to 5mg in the am and feeling great.